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The Magistrate

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26. All That Is True, Sir

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 12:17 AM

Sep 2021

In terms of Senate organization, Manchin and Sinema are essential. They prevent McConnell from holding the chieftainship of the body. On most routine matters, they vote properly.

At this point, however, they are preventing exercise of our slim majority for policies which are both widely popular and of great value to the people of our country.

That, I expect you will agree is a problem.

It is a problem which may well produce a Republican majority in one or both chambers.

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I just want to bang my head against the wall Hekate Sep 2021 #1

K&R! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #2

Grrr. nt babylonsister Sep 2021 #3

it's not the repubs who are the biggest problem in the senate nt msongs Sep 2021 #4

Really? Because when I checked AleksS Sep 2021 #7

Thanks. 100% obstructionist radicalized post-policy politics-as-war Republicans are the problem. betsuni Sep 2021 #10

Yes of course, but that's hardly a great campaign slogan for the midterms Orrex Sep 2021 #11

50-50 isn't a majority. betsuni Sep 2021 #13

Yeah, go with that Orrex Sep 2021 #15

"I'm not Trump, vote for me!" was an anti-Democratic insult in the last two elections. betsuni Sep 2021 #18

I don't know that they have no message Orrex Sep 2021 #19

Republican voters know the Democratic message: Equality. betsuni Sep 2021 #34

Great! Post a link to top level Democrats articulating that message plainly. Orrex Sep 2021 #35

Republicans still show up to vote no matter what Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #45

That is the sad damn truth Orrex Sep 2021 #46

Or they bail Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #47

The Senate Traditionalist Dems are the 2nd biggest problem in the Senate. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #9

You've stated it very nicely Orrex Sep 2021 #17

I had kind of hoped that four years of Trump would have finally cured them of that. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #27

dems do NOT need any repub votes, they have enuff except for obstructionists nt msongs Sep 2021 #14

Just don't forget that AleksS Sep 2021 #23

We have 51 votes in theory. We ARE the majority and the Rs would damn sure would run KPN Sep 2021 #25

Sure. But when people say things like AleksS Sep 2021 #37

What?! Reviewing the thread, I saw no comment saying the KPN Sep 2021 #40

And yet here folks are blaming certain Democrats AleksS Sep 2021 #42

All That Is True, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #26

Do you know who else is preventing exercise of AleksS Sep 2021 #38

One Expects Opposition From An Enemy, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #39

LOL! Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #28

I would put forth that whining about AleksS Sep 2021 #43

You think that they don't attack their own when they get out of line? Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #44

And how's that working for them? AleksS Sep 2021 #48

This makes me so angry. Nevilledog Sep 2021 #5

At This Point, Ma'am, There Doesn't seem Much Else To Do.... The Magistrate Sep 2021 #36

It's costing us on many levels. BeckyDem Sep 2021 #6

Article 1 Section 3 The Senate bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #8

The idea of there being a Senate Parliamentarian isn't in the Constitution either Silent3 Sep 2021 #16

Right, its in the senate rules, they need 51 votes to change the rules, they need to vote to change bottomofthehill Sep 2021 #20

Depends Silent3 Sep 2021 #22

The Parliamentarian, Sir, Advises The Presiding Officer The Magistrate Sep 2021 #29

Good info. KPN Sep 2021 #30

Like magic, Sir, Gridlock appears to block progressive legislation. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #12

Huzzah! KPN Sep 2021 #31

In other words, nobody should stand in our way wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #21

This Is My View On That, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #24

There are other Democrats in the weeds here mcar Sep 2021 #32

We can't even get 50 Dems to agree on simple stuff... Calista241 Sep 2021 #33

It's way past time to get rid of the filibuster SouthernDem4ever Sep 2021 #41