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80. If this were happening here would you want someone to save your grandaughters? nt

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Should NATO immediately become directly involved in the Ukraine war? [View all] ColinC Apr 2022 OP

Rhetorical question, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #1

We are involved and have been since before it started. Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #2

Thank you, Sherman Al! True Blue American Apr 2022 #4

Spot on! CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #10

Exactly. We are sending weapons and supplies; Ukraine has enough troops. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #20

Directly is fighting Russia with our own jets and soldiers ColinC Apr 2022 #66

"We are not directly involved or we would be at war with Russia." Mariana Apr 2022 #82

Kinda afraid to do that in case it would have substantially different results. ColinC Apr 2022 #111

If a clearly worded question have would have substantially different results Mariana Apr 2022 #112

No internet poll is worth much imho ColinC Apr 2022 #114

Depends on what you mean by involved! True Blue American Apr 2022 #3

See post #66 by the OP to see what "directly involved" means. Mariana Apr 2022 #84

France and Germany and US will veto that kind of talk immediately, so no, not gonna happen Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2022 #5

They already are! Emile Apr 2022 #6

NATO is allowing the rape and torture of children. marie999 Apr 2022 #7

They are allowing it? CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #11

Well, there are those pesky fact things Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #12

Even if it did stop with just Ukraine, Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #108

Now or later HAB911 Apr 2022 #8

NATO should begin an extended bombing campaign Tomconroy Apr 2022 #9

You are welcome to head on over to Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #13

You need a new line. You've overused that one. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #14

Perhaps, when should I tell them you will be there to volunteer Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #16

Nope. A slight variation doesn't cut it. Just another repetitive post. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #19

As are yours Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #21

And yours aren't? nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #49

Please see reply 30. Aspire to do as well. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #61

The thing you seem to forget is that in 1962, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #63

I give your reply a C minus. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #65

And yours gets an F. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #67

So, because some of us want to stop the rape and torture of women and children, marie999 Apr 2022 #15

A very bad limited war as bad as it seems to be Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #17

And if Russia then attacks Estonia, what will NATO do. marie999 Apr 2022 #24

Perhaps you have not heard of Article Five of the NATO Charter. Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #27

I have heard of Article 5 and that does not bother Putin because he sees NATO as cowards. marie999 Apr 2022 #31

I have a good handle on the world's militaries Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #40

I never said he wants to take on NATO, marie999 Apr 2022 #88

If they are NATO Members (and they are) Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #96

All you do is call people out saying they should go volunteer over there Calculating Apr 2022 #91

I am suggesting that the armchair generals might want to go find out for themselves Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #94

I have put people on ignore, but not for disagreeing with me. marie999 Apr 2022 #101

Yes, they need the hardware to destroy Russian equipment. yagotme Apr 2022 #103

You are no Jack Kennedy. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #30

You are making it sound like everyone but Putin is responsible. Emile Apr 2022 #18

Well, there is that, but the poster seems to be on a roll there Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #22

That's one hell of a spin! Emile Apr 2022 #23

As I said they are on a roll there Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #25

Putin is responsible for starting the war. NATO is responsible for not ending it. marie999 Apr 2022 #26

Only Putin is responsible, for starting and or ending it! Emile Apr 2022 #28

So, Germany was responsible for ending the war in Europe. marie999 Apr 2022 #34

You are talking about a war before nukes! Emile Apr 2022 #36

What if Russia attacks one of the Baltic countries? marie999 Apr 2022 #37

What if, is that your argument now? Emile Apr 2022 #39

I'm just asking you seem afraid of NATO helping Ukraine because it could start a nuclear war. marie999 Apr 2022 #42

I already told you NATO is helping Ukraine, did that fly over your head? Emile Apr 2022 #48

NATO is not doing enough and will not do enough to save Ukraine. marie999 Apr 2022 #50

Well stop complaining and get your ass over there! Emile Apr 2022 #52

Really? Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #29

You should take a course in reading comprehension. marie999 Apr 2022 #35

A course in history and foreign affairs Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #41

I have kept up with history and foreign affairs marie999 Apr 2022 #46

You just destroyed someone on the internet. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #56

How's that? Just because someone speaks Russian doesn't Emile Apr 2022 #58

Laughable. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #59

Then you should know what the potential consequences are Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #73

Sounds like Ukraine could really use your expertise and experience. nt. Mariana Apr 2022 #86

Sorry, but I never put stock in people who make a beeline for the most hysterical language available Bucky Apr 2022 #79

We have no idea who the good guys are in the middle east Calculating Apr 2022 #92

Huh? malaise Apr 2022 #32

The OP has explained elsewhere in the thread Mariana Apr 2022 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Apr 2022 #33

There are a lot of brave people sarisataka Apr 2022 #38

This war has White people dying. marie999 Apr 2022 #43

I commend your honesty sarisataka Apr 2022 #45

Bam, there is your reason! Emile Apr 2022 #51

Skin color of the victims would be one guess. wanda4rafi Apr 2022 #47

Rwanda was pre-DU sarisataka Apr 2022 #55

I'm simply citing the atrocities that occurred there and the difference in the wanda4rafi Apr 2022 #64

We actually know who the good guys are in this one Calculating Apr 2022 #93

We could use the benchmark of sarisataka Apr 2022 #97

Is the internet viewing growing too dull for some people? Sympthsical Apr 2022 #44

As another war in Europe begins ripcord Apr 2022 #53

What's your recommendations on how to fight a nuclear armed country? Emile Apr 2022 #54

The same way we will when Putin attacks a NATO country ripcord Apr 2022 #62

I'm an old man, the end of my life is not to far off! I would like think my granddaughters Emile Apr 2022 #69

These is no guarantee Putin will use nukes ripcord Apr 2022 #70

I don't like it anymore than you! One thing I do know is, Putin Emile Apr 2022 #72

He's obviously bluffing Calculating Apr 2022 #95

Are we now in favor of the US being the world's police force? sarisataka Apr 2022 #57

It would seem so to a few here. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #60

No we are one of the countries who doesn't have the moral strength to stand up for what is right nt ripcord Apr 2022 #71

I can think of four major conflicts sarisataka Apr 2022 #74

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If this were happening here would you want someone to save your grandaughters? nt ripcord Apr 2022 #80

The afghan people didn't even fight for themselves Calculating Apr 2022 #98

There's not a war in Europe now? tia uponit7771 Apr 2022 #104

Involved How? NATO is already involved. MineralMan Apr 2022 #68

Directly involved means fighting Russia. ColinC Apr 2022 #76

Well, then, I say NO. I don't think that's going to happen. MineralMan Apr 2022 #77

Fair enough ColinC Apr 2022 #78

Putin certainly has a plan for Estonia & probably Latvia Bucky Apr 2022 #83

+1, it should've said "more" involved via different weapons systems that NATO hasn't sent yet ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #105

It's easy to be brave when there is little to no risk for the individual Kaleva Apr 2022 #81

I am still in the military ColinC Apr 2022 #87

I wonder how many who voted "Yes" would be the 1st to go? Kaleva Apr 2022 #89

I think to have a moral opinion is different from whether one is willing or able to be directly ColinC Apr 2022 #100

I trust the people who say "yes" will be the first in line at the enlistment office? brooklynite Apr 2022 #85

I think instead of boots on the ground, jets in the sky we should start with boats in the water yaesu Apr 2022 #90

+1, even better than jets cruise missiles would do the job of bombing Russia's AFBs and supply ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #106

So are you going to suit up and take your own nuclear sub to the Black Sea? Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #109

Exactly!! ColinC Apr 2022 #110

No! Polybius Apr 2022 #99

Russia's stated goal is the genocide of Ukrainians. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #107

Go to open, total war? No. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2022 #113