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In reply to the discussion: Where is Prigozhin? (Poll) [View all]jimmy the one
(2,720 posts)33. russia has 2nd most powerful air force
Putin looked weak and frightened in his response Rather then strong, in control and brutal had he taken out the Wagner forces immediately as you suggest he could have easily done
Weak and frightened? according to who? you? beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I would say putyin was understandably disconcerted, unsettled - not with the fear of 'Moscow Falling' - but that Prig's anabasis would precipitate a domino affect, where other russian forces would mutiny. Perhaps that it why he held off attacking Prig, fear of sparking other russian forces to mutiny.
In June 1941 when Hitler launched Barbarossa invasion of Soviet Union, Stalin was, reportedly, in a high strung state of fright for 2 weeks, likely convinced his soviet army could never stop the so far invincible Wehrmacht. This of course ended with Hitler stalling out at the gates of Moscow during december, essentially being stopped & weakened by general winter - what Monty was talking about.
But Prigozhin did not control 3 Army Groups like Hitler, only a division or so in his 'drang nach norden'.
The 10 most powerful air forces in the world are the United States Air Force, Russian Air Force, People's Liberation Army Air Force, Indian Air Force, Japan Air Self-Defense Force, Israeli Air Force, French Air and Space Force, British Royal Air Force, Republic of Korea Air Force, and Italian Air Force.May 22, 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft
Air force
United States ............. Russia
Fixed wing aircraft
5414 ..........................2176
Fighters/Multiroles [would include fighter-bombers for airstrikes]
1840 ...........................1319
Bombers
162 ..............................181 [russia has some old bombers]
Weak and frightened? according to who? you? beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I would say putyin was understandably disconcerted, unsettled - not with the fear of 'Moscow Falling' - but that Prig's anabasis would precipitate a domino affect, where other russian forces would mutiny. Perhaps that it why he held off attacking Prig, fear of sparking other russian forces to mutiny.
In June 1941 when Hitler launched Barbarossa invasion of Soviet Union, Stalin was, reportedly, in a high strung state of fright for 2 weeks, likely convinced his soviet army could never stop the so far invincible Wehrmacht. This of course ended with Hitler stalling out at the gates of Moscow during december, essentially being stopped & weakened by general winter - what Monty was talking about.
But Prigozhin did not control 3 Army Groups like Hitler, only a division or so in his 'drang nach norden'.
The 10 most powerful air forces in the world are the United States Air Force, Russian Air Force, People's Liberation Army Air Force, Indian Air Force, Japan Air Self-Defense Force, Israeli Air Force, French Air and Space Force, British Royal Air Force, Republic of Korea Air Force, and Italian Air Force.May 22, 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft
Air force
United States ............. Russia
Fixed wing aircraft
5414 ..........................2176
Fighters/Multiroles [would include fighter-bombers for airstrikes]
1840 ...........................1319
Bombers
162 ..............................181 [russia has some old bombers]
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