Dozens of birds to be renamed to shun racism

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17. I kinda agree

I am well to the left, but sometimes I don’t get some of this stuff. To the extent that I am pretty live-and-let-live I figure if someone finds this stuff useful, it is not for me to harangue them-it is usually fairly low power people whatever the rw narrative is.

The bigger problem is that I feel that people who are very vocal about race and gender from the left are taken as representative of say all non-white, left wing women (a group I belong to). And that I don’t like.

It is tricky because if one basically does not really get this stuff as a nonwhite female, a right wing culture warrior or a type of sleazy contrarian (Jonathan Haidt/Steven Pinker/Yasha Mounck/the IDW) assumes you are agreeing with them, which is definitely not the case!

I don’t feel one has to take one of the typically two or three default positions out there on these things. I generally think that this is performative.Otoh the rw outrage over these things is also bs. As is whatever Jonathan Haidt represents(in my book anyway).

What I do think is that this stuff does take up more airtime from both sides than more practical issues that require real and not symbolic change. I don’t buy that “we can walk and chew gum stuff” anymore. Everything is finite.

A) it does suck up a lot of airtime and B) While Ramaswamy’s right wing outrage over “Woke Inc” is drivel, it is true that these things are pushed from the business community woke by people who don’t want any serious changes to the status quo (unlike say the degrowth movement or anti capitalist movements or the people fighting for abortion rights). On the left this is the politics of the Barbie movie: 1) it of interest to right wing nutcases for faux outrage as they would prefer anything to discussion of anything serious; 2) it is the sort of toothless change that a type of sleazy business person likes and 3) there is the actual left that does buy into this stuff sincerely enough I am guessing..whereas from the same general area of the left, I don’t buy it. I don’t think it makes anything better and it may even backfire sometimes.

I mean we may no longer gender manholes
-I mean potholes....otoh Roe v Wade was overturned. I see so little discussion of abortion sometimes on that type of left..which was what made me sour on it. How can one of the biggest human rights issues of this era be a footnote?

We get a lot of symbolic and illusory drivel while in every real way we are getting fucked over :-/.