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RSherman

(576 posts)
8. Wow, I just had this conversation with my insurance man
Wed Mar 20, 2024, 01:33 PM
Mar 2024

He was going on and on about the "illegals". He said he saw on TV yesterday that companies are receiving tax credits for hiring immigrants before American citizens. I googled that when I got home and could only find references to something during the Obama administration that was conflated with the ACA. I informed him about a food processing plant that was raided by ICE. The owner made up SS numbers for the workers. He was sentenced to 27 years, and of course, Trump commuted his sentence to time served.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postville_raid

US companies absolutely profit from hiring/exploiting undocumented workers. They don't want the "immigration problem" solved. They love it.

Read "The Great Escape" in which US oil companies went through brokers to trick around 200 highly skilled welders from India to come to the US to repair the oil rigs that were damaged after Katrina. The companies didn't want to pay US union wages. Once the Indian men were here, they were basically imprisoned. They were finally able to get word to a labor organizer who helped free them.

https://www.amazon.com/Great-Escape-Forced-Immigrant-America/dp/1643750089/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.enWBNwKGK-CLMzIdIcgJ6Q.p6aOjVFJN9ytr2r_GsFPN0ngMaboHC5iVn9LTZZysVU&dib_tag=se&hvadid=649829406687&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1022952&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=10482733173284207178&hvtargid=kwd-1966889560963&hydadcr=8511_13545037&keywords=the+great+escape+by+saket+soni&qid=1710959505&sr=8-1

Also, because US employers make up SS numbers for undocumented workers, the employees contribute to the SS fund, but will never be able to collect. According to a book I read, undocumented workers have contributed $2T to Social Security. Yet, our politicians cry that the fund is constantly running out.

Also, a Target store in TX hires undocumented Mexicans to be night cleaners. They make them work 60 hours/week, no OT, because really, who are the employees going to complain to?

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12/19/big-name-businesses-exploit-immigrant-labor/

And, Trump hired undocumented Polish workers when he bought the Bonwit Teller store and converted it to Trump Towers. Then promptly refused to pay them. (of course) There was a years long lawsuit which eventually concluded in some sort of settlement. (of course it was litigated! ugh!)

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It would solve the issue at a single stroke. But it'll never happen. Scrivener7 Mar 2024 #1
That would be great if the penalties against the employers were enforced MichMan Mar 2024 #2
Step one. Give anyone who's been working here a green card. hunter Mar 2024 #4
Exploit, abuse, under pay, sexually abuse...YES! That is why many US employers LOVE undocumented workers Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #13
You left out a part of that sentence. OldBaldy1701E Mar 2024 #17
I saw a documentary years ago about recruiting at the border underpants Mar 2024 #3
The worst part of this situation... Caliman73 Mar 2024 #7
Undocumented workers wouldn't even think of unionizing either underpants Mar 2024 #10
They can't really unionize Caliman73 Mar 2024 #11
Yep. underpants Mar 2024 #12
That is insane! Caliman73 Mar 2024 #21
and damned few of them break laws because they want to stay here to live and work Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #14
Find 3-5% of Social Security too underpants Mar 2024 #20
An ITN is for tax purposes only and does not have anything to do with paying into SS MichMan Mar 2024 #30
That's it in a nutshell. My (now deceased) FIL ranted about "illegals" Coventina Mar 2024 #5
And that's a big flaw with the conservative arguments about immigration. SouthBayDem Mar 2024 #6
Not only is it US citizens creating the demand for illegal drugs Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #15
Wow, I just had this conversation with my insurance man RSherman Mar 2024 #8
Excellent work taking a stand against the propaganda & lies too many fall for! Thank you. Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #16
Totally agree! RSherman Mar 2024 #19
Seems like they spout off because they want to be validated. Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #22
Thanks so much! RSherman Mar 2024 #24
There you go bringing in facts beyond the R scare tactics senseandsensibility Mar 2024 #9
Yeah, and here in the Border lands, I am one mouthy bitch, working to help elect DEMS locally, Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #18
Note immigration wasnt a problem when Trump Johonny Mar 2024 #23
Well, it was an issue down here in the Borderlands. Local MAGAs found much to scream about Attilatheblond Mar 2024 #25
It was democrats who blocked the mandatory use of e-Verify ripcord Mar 2024 #26
Agree that it would stop most migrants and force some to leave, but they are still poor Silent Type Mar 2024 #27
Probably. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2024 #28
I remember they were Romney's lawn MOMFUDSKI Mar 2024 #29
self delete mike_c Mar 2024 #31
so many of these people dont even realize they cant enter the US samnsara Mar 2024 #32
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