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In reply to the discussion: NETANYAHU'S WAR ON TRUTH Israel's Ruthless Propaganda Campaign to Dehumanize Palestinians [View all]Rob H.
(5,622 posts)40. "The U.N. nearly halved its estimate of women and children killed in Gaza ...."
FALSE. That claim has been debunked numerous times over the past few days but here's one more.
Fact Check: Did UN Halve Gaza Death Toll?
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"The overall number of fatalities that's been tallied by the Ministry of Health in Gaza, which is our counterpart on dealing with the death tolls, that number remains unchanged and it's at more than 35,000 people since October 7," (U.N. spokesperson Faran) Haq said.
"What's changed is the Ministry of Health in Gaza has updated the breakdown of fatalities for whom full details have been documented.
"So what they recently published was that they gave figures for 24,686 out of 34,622 overall fatalities recorded in Gaza, and those 24,686 people are the ones for whom full details have been documented. In other words, people who have been fully identified.
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The number of deaths in Gaza reported by the U.N. has not been halved.
New figures, that broke down the number of fully identified and documented deaths, were published by the U.N. on May 8 along with the number of reported fatalities from the Ministry of Health in Gaza, whose figures the U.N. says are proven to be "generally accurate."
The smaller number of fully identified deaths was thought by some to mean the total figure had been revised, in some cases by half, which the U.N. has denied and clarified.
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"The overall number of fatalities that's been tallied by the Ministry of Health in Gaza, which is our counterpart on dealing with the death tolls, that number remains unchanged and it's at more than 35,000 people since October 7," (U.N. spokesperson Faran) Haq said.
"What's changed is the Ministry of Health in Gaza has updated the breakdown of fatalities for whom full details have been documented.
"So what they recently published was that they gave figures for 24,686 out of 34,622 overall fatalities recorded in Gaza, and those 24,686 people are the ones for whom full details have been documented. In other words, people who have been fully identified.
{...}
The number of deaths in Gaza reported by the U.N. has not been halved.
New figures, that broke down the number of fully identified and documented deaths, were published by the U.N. on May 8 along with the number of reported fatalities from the Ministry of Health in Gaza, whose figures the U.N. says are proven to be "generally accurate."
The smaller number of fully identified deaths was thought by some to mean the total figure had been revised, in some cases by half, which the U.N. has denied and clarified.
All emphases added by me.
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NETANYAHU'S WAR ON TRUTH Israel's Ruthless Propaganda Campaign to Dehumanize Palestinians [View all]
TeamProg
May 2024
OP
"Eliminate Israel's Palestinian Problem once and for all"? Understand that I was brought up to admire the Jewish.....
MMBeilis
May 2024
#1
So it's a 'small war'. That makes it okay to commit war crimes? Clearly the IDF who are not yet deemed a 'terrorist
TeamProg
May 2024
#21
Not at all. Netanyahu is more aligned with Putin and Trump than Biden. Thanks for playing though!
TeamProg
May 2024
#34
Nothing I said was false. Your article confirms what I said about WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
SunSeeker
May 2024
#44
The right wingers keeping Bibi in power have publicly stated they want to start Israeli settlements in Gaza
dutch777
May 2024
#7
I knew it was The Intercept or Jacobin before clicking. Propaganda -- I know there's a effort to
betsuni
May 2024
#6
Who does this sound like? "It's all propaganda aginst me", "I am a victim" , "It's a witch hunt", "They're trying
TeamProg
May 2024
#22
Well in this instance, the person screaming about propaganda is the Intercept's Jeremy Scahill.
SunSeeker
May 2024
#39
Nope, follow the thread. I was referring to the post : "The Intercept is itself a propaganda outfit."
TeamProg
May 2024
#57
"Whitewash" has many degrees. Defining whitewash as propaganda is also propaganda, yes?
TeamProg
May 2024
#59
The Intercept arguing that Hamas DIDN'T actually rape all those women isn't convincing to you?
NickB79
May 2024
#61
Ha ha ha. There it is! It is NOT anti-Semitic to attack Netanyahu's plans of ethnic cleansin
TeamProg
May 2024
#67
Odd that you would object to me using the word propaganda, but not to Jeremy Scahill's use. nt
SunSeeker
May 2024
#60
Textbook ethnic cleansing is what Palestinians did in Gaza to Jews and Christians.
SunSeeker
May 2024
#41
BS. As your article notes, the Israelis agreed to move them in the face of Palestinian threats of desecration.
SunSeeker
May 2024
#53
The families didn't want to. They argued with Israeli government. You forgot to quote the Israeli govt
Nanjeanne
May 2024
#71
They couldn't leave the graves there because the Palestinians would desecrate the graves.
SunSeeker
May 2024
#72
It is an interesting discussion in light of the mass grave desecration and grave robbing by Israel's army.
David__77
May 2024
#75
Interesting how prejudice can color everything but I guess it's easier for some to sleep at night. Sad too.
Nanjeanne
May 2024
#77