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In reply to the discussion: I'm gonna say something unpopular now [View all]
walkingman
(9,100 posts)112. I had a recent conversation with my 21yo great niece about the same issue.
It is very tiring. My conclusions are that her and her friends are viewing this as a protest vote and maybe even a statement by their generation.
They like to talk about both parties being too old, how they would never vote for Trump, believing that their local community and local actions will cause a revolution, etc.
I saw a similar situation in 2016 from many of the same people over Bernie's loss to Hillary.
I understand their youthful idealism, feeling like they as a youth voting block it has meaning, and even agree with some of their arguments. But similar to the banner in the OP it is not a valid way to chose who we elect, especially at the National level.
A local protest, local activism, disagreement on social media, hanging with like-minded people - none of that will change our government leaders.
In a two-party system, voting for a 3rd party will never solve any of your grievances.
They like to talk about both parties being too old, how they would never vote for Trump, believing that their local community and local actions will cause a revolution, etc.
I saw a similar situation in 2016 from many of the same people over Bernie's loss to Hillary.
I understand their youthful idealism, feeling like they as a youth voting block it has meaning, and even agree with some of their arguments. But similar to the banner in the OP it is not a valid way to chose who we elect, especially at the National level.
A local protest, local activism, disagreement on social media, hanging with like-minded people - none of that will change our government leaders.
In a two-party system, voting for a 3rd party will never solve any of your grievances.
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I doubt there are many people who vote third-party solely because they're told why it's a bad idea.
TwilightZone
Jun 2024
#1
Throughout the 20th century the popular vote results was the same as the electoral college votes. Now twice in the
Walleye
Jun 2024
#98
Thank you for your reply. I like it when there is a conservative third party on the ballot.
John1956PA
Jun 2024
#14
Exit polls from 1992 showed Perot voters splitting equally between Bush and Clinton had he not been on the ballot.
tritsofme
Jun 2024
#45
If we won Florida, we would have won the presidency...I hate Greens and they did it again in 16.
Demsrule86
Jun 2024
#94
Except, by Buchanan's own testimony at the time, he won a statistically impossible total of votes in a very Democratic
jaxexpat
Jun 2024
#30
That is legit in fact...most polls even ones I like are bullshit for many reasons...and bought and paid for by the right
Demsrule86
Jun 2024
#96
The Greens and Nader screwed Gore...and I don't think Green voters would have voted for Bush...they would have stayed
Demsrule86
Jun 2024
#100
the Consortium of news orgs that investigated afterwards claim that Gore won, if all the votes had been counted.
Grasswire2
Jun 2024
#29
In Florida at the time, if the voters intent could be determined, it would be counted
questionseverything
Jun 2024
#107
Explain me first the electoral college. Without it, the popular vote would likely elect a president.
usonian
Jun 2024
#13
Third party voters didn't vote for Nader or Stein because they believed they could win, they voted for them as
sop
Jun 2024
#16
You'll likely have the House determining the winner of the Presidential Election occasionally as well.
Ace Rothstein
Jun 2024
#39
In that case, they would have siphoned votes away from the Republican candidate
MichMan
Jun 2024
#72
I saw something I liked in the Greens of yore. People trying to shame me for my votes never won me over. It
GPV
Jun 2024
#28
Do you support third party challenges to Democratic candidates? Yes or no.
marble falls
Jun 2024
#31
I take responsibility for Reagan's election in 1980. I voted for John Anderson.
no_hypocrisy
Jun 2024
#57
Hilariously, I've seen "You don't always get what you want!" echoed more by RWers to Democrats angry over 2016.
Lancero
Jun 2024
#144
But it is true, unless a third party has infrastructure up and down the government
JT45242
Jun 2024
#67
Lots of interesting, thoughtful and even insightful responses on this thread
BWdem4life
Jun 2024
#126
Something tells me the blamers never learn their lesson. W's Texas purged Florida's voters.
GreenWave
Jun 2024
#73
And Anyway, The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Is Less Evil: Good Ain't In Pole Position On the Ballot....
The Magistrate
Jun 2024
#81
Indeed, Sir: The Only People Arguing This Is Not A Fact Are People Who Hope To Wreck A Democratic Candidate Again
The Magistrate
Jun 2024
#89
Our Party blaming the voters is like a business blaming the citizens for not buying its product.
jalan48
Jun 2024
#113
IMO, that is when it became clear that SCOTUS was a political court. And their decisions
walkingman
Jun 2024
#123
I think that if Gore won in 2000, we'd eventually have gotten a President McCain or Romney
Polybius
Jun 2024
#132
How do you "woo the vote" of someone who is leaning toward, say, Bob Kennedy?
LudwigPastorius
Jun 2024
#140
" voting is an emotional action and not a logical one" - who says?
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2024
#141