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62. I don't care if you disagree..

Reply to chouchou (Reply #61)

Wed Jun 26, 2024, 10:08 AM

Jun 2024

President has no authority to shut down a TV station..

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Do you think the Biden administration should shut down Fox News? (poll) [View all] Wednesdays Jun 2024 OP

It's a big No for me. I don't watch it except when Colbert shows some funny chit from FOX. Silent Type Jun 2024 #1

Funny how authoritarian attitudes rear their ugly heads Ocelot II Jun 2024 #2

Funny, Or Sad? ProfessorGAC Jun 2024 #4

Funny how First Amendment Absolutists whathehell Jun 2024 #10

It's hardly 1A absolutism to oppose a government shutdown of an entire TV network Ocelot II Jun 2024 #11

Perhaps, but that may be why some chose "other" whathehell Jun 2024 #15

A suggestion: Don't cite debunked claims about Fox News when arguing against Fox News. onenote Jun 2024 #19

"Fox has never argued in litigation that they whathehell Jun 2024 #87

They argued that, consistent with a long line of precedent, libel law is not applicable toopinion/commentary onenote Jun 2024 #98

They conceded that Tucker Carlson, whathehell Jun 2024 #127

Not everything on Fox News is "news". Just as not everything in a newspaper is "news." onenote Jun 2024 #128

The law is ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #45

The law is whathehell Jun 2024 #69

And so far, thank the lucky stars, the SC has ruled in favor of the 1A. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #71

It doesn't mean we can pretend the First Amendment allows the government to ban opposition outlets they don't like. tritsofme Jun 2024 #72

The rule ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #82

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #83

Lol..Misinterpret much? whathehell Jun 2024 #90

Speaking of ForgedCrank Jun 2024 #97

Oh my..Where to begin? whathehell Jun 2024 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Jun 2024 #130

No, and I didn't define it that way. whathehell Jun 2024 #132

Why should I reply about an impossible and unconstitutional fantasy? brooklynite Jun 2024 #3

Silly poll. Under what authority? Fiendish Thingy Jun 2024 #5

It's not my fantasy. Wednesdays Jun 2024 #17

In my ... I Hate Their Guts Opinion .... I say YES. I am in arotten mood today. Trueblue1968 Jun 2024 #108

How? Who would think that was a good idea? Dorian Gray Jun 2024 #6

Another "Why didn't/don't Democrats stop _____?" WHEN THEY CAN'T. betsuni Jun 2024 #7

I guess the authoritarian enemies of the First Amendment will name themselves! tritsofme Jun 2024 #8

""This has been brought up on other threads today." Well that's a sorry ass excuse for doing it again. elocs Jun 2024 #9

Indeed. nt Wednesdays Jun 2024 #18

What you said in post #17 was a bit more nuanced than that: ms liberty Jun 2024 #33

Have all the wine you want. Wednesdays Jun 2024 #36

Any gov't with that kind of an abuse of power would only hurt YOU next. WarGamer Jun 2024 #12

Maybe we could hear from those choosing "other" whathehell Jun 2024 #13

What we need is a revamping of both the FCC and the FTC. Funtatlaguy Jun 2024 #14

The FCC does regulate both cable and broadcast, but there are differences both statutory and constitutional onenote Jun 2024 #21

It's not news. Fox News admitted in court that it's not news. It's false advertising. Doodley Jun 2024 #121

No they didn't. You're repeating a lie that simply won't go away. onenote Jun 2024 #124

I never stated they admitted they lie. They stated in court that they are an entertainment channel. Doodley Jun 2024 #129

Absolutely not. Elessar Zappa Jun 2024 #16

Bringing back some kind of fairness doctrine would hurt them the most mvd Jun 2024 #20

Do you remember Alan Colmes? onenote Jun 2024 #23

I do mvd Jun 2024 #34

It still wouldn't apply to cable TV Zeitghost Jun 2024 #116

No but they should get sued for false stories until they're broke Tribetime Jun 2024 #22

I'm on board with that MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #26

That's such a tankie thing. EllieBC Jun 2024 #24

And you get a 'rec' for using 'Tankie'! Now waiting for someone to ask what it means. GoneOffShore Jun 2024 #74

People don't know what tankies are?!? EllieBC Jun 2024 #120

No MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #25

I'd try to shut them down. They are liken to disgusting human garbage and that's how I'd treat them. chouchou Jun 2024 #27

First Amendment be damned? What a terrifying post. tritsofme Jun 2024 #30

I stand by what I said. There are things in life that rules can go fuck themselves. chouchou Jun 2024 #37

It always amazes me that some folks oppose Trump, but seem to want their own version. tritsofme Jun 2024 #38

So Trump can shut down DU too then? Polybius Jun 2024 #41

The question was: "Do you think the Biden administration should..etc" chouchou Jun 2024 #44

If the goal is to "make the world a better place", assuming there could be agreement on how to do that, onenote Jun 2024 #55

Have you ever listened to Fox News for hours on end? I have. (Forced to as trapped on job) chouchou Jun 2024 #60

So, in your mind, this is a reason for the Govt. to shut down an opposition channel MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #63

So who gets to decide what's good and bad? Polybius Jun 2024 #84

Trump is who. If he gets elected. Captain Zero Jun 2024 #123

That is the exact line of reasoning hueymahl Jun 2024 #77

It really is a terrifying post. yardwork Jun 2024 #92

Perfect response from someone who doesn't... DemocratInPa Jun 2024 #59

I disagree with you. chouchou Jun 2024 #61

I don't care if you disagree.. DemocratInPa Jun 2024 #62

That TV station has done more damage to this country than just about anything else. chouchou Jun 2024 #64

And a Republican administration will argue that MSNBC and DU have done more damage to this country Polybius Jun 2024 #86

They would be wrong. Political scientists have proven that Fox News has damaged the Democratic party...through lying. chouchou Jun 2024 #89

Funny how Nixon and Reagan were elected, twice, before there was Fox News, and while there was a fairness doctrine. onenote Jun 2024 #100

So what? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #65

No..When it comes to Fox News, I'd kick their ass back to Australia...if I could. chouchou Jun 2024 #67

That's fine, that's your opinion, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #68

Exactly, the First Amendment exists precisely to protect us all from the authoritarian dreams of folks like this. tritsofme Jun 2024 #73

Thank goddess you are not in power hueymahl Jun 2024 #76

Wow!!! MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #79

LOL hueymahl Jun 2024 #80

Love you too, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #81

Just keep suing IdiotsforPalin Jun 2024 #28

This MustLoveBeagles Jun 2024 #29

Slippery slope. moondust Jun 2024 #31

Give FOX a chance first to stop the lies and winger propaganda... brush Jun 2024 #32

Fuck no...can't believe this is even being discussed. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2024 #35

The 17% who voted yes are in the wrong group Polybius Jun 2024 #39

Inappropriate. Doodley Jun 2024 #42

No Polybius Jun 2024 #43

It is un-American to oppose the First Amendment, whether you are Donald Trump, or anyone else. tritsofme Jun 2024 #115

Something needs to be done before it's too late, or maybe it is too late already. Doodley Jun 2024 #40

Freedom of speech 1st Amendment includes lying. GoodRaisin Jun 2024 #46

No DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2024 #47

Of course not. But bring back the fairness doctrine Bucky Jun 2024 #48

It should come back, but it wouldn't apply to this. themaguffin Jun 2024 #49

Claro Bucky Jun 2024 #51

what? themaguffin Jun 2024 #58

That isn't how the FD worked. onenote Jun 2024 #52

Of course not. Bucky Jun 2024 #54

FD doesn't apply to cable TheProle Jun 2024 #75

This is silly. DemocratInPa Jun 2024 #50

If you can justify forcing TikTok to shut down, you can justify forcing Fox to shut down. Lancero Jun 2024 #53

Exactly. Both are dead wrong positions. hueymahl Jun 2024 #78

TikToc can avoid being shutdown without changing content Kaleva Jun 2024 #96

Remember the days when we called this ban attempt for what it was? Lancero Jun 2024 #103

That article was about abuse of presidential power Kaleva Jun 2024 #110

No, but they shouldnt carry the label "news" Flatrat Jun 2024 #56

No BlueKota Jun 2024 #57

The only way to protect our freedoms sarisataka Jun 2024 #66

silly H2O Man Jun 2024 #70

the government should not shut down news outlets DBoon Jun 2024 #85

Reinstate the fairness doctrine and enforce it with fines. kimbutgar Jun 2024 #88

Please see: TheProle Jun 2024 #91

Too bad it can't be updated to include cable tv news today. kimbutgar Jun 2024 #93

If it could be "updated" to include cable news, it could be updated to include internet content. Like DU. onenote Jun 2024 #102

And that's how you get a fairness doctrine Zeitghost Jun 2024 #117

And how does the Biden Administration do this? NT Patton French Jun 2024 #94

I would like to see News used in names when 100% of programming is News and not 10%, 90% Commentary. TheBlackAdder Jun 2024 #95

Is Rachel Maddow's show news, commentary, or a combination? How should it be labeled? onenote Jun 2024 #99

She's a hybrid, but she's on Microsoft National Broadcasting Company. TheBlackAdder Jun 2024 #106

No. And what about OAN and Newsmax? RussBLib Jun 2024 #101

No, but the cable providers don't have to carry any stations. pwb Jun 2024 #104

No. Consumers should drive fox out of business. And companies/individuals who they have lied emulatorloo Jun 2024 #105

Absolutely 100% opposed to this sort of despotism TexasDem69 Jun 2024 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author PJMcK Jun 2024 #109

Dumb question. No President should ever "shut down" a news organization. Iggo Jun 2024 #111

restore the fairness doctrine. pansypoo53219 Jun 2024 #112

Shutting down a news organization? Music Man Jun 2024 #113

What I would like, and it might require amending the Constitution (that is to say, might be pratically impossible)... Silent3 Jun 2024 #114

People are free to be wrong Zeitghost Jun 2024 #118

I'm not arguing against the right to be wrong Silent3 Jun 2024 #119

A president can't do that, so why ask? DFW Jun 2024 #122

How does that work? nt Gore1FL Jun 2024 #126

That would set a bad precedent... jmowreader Jun 2024 #131

Not News Blue Full Moon Jun 2024 #133