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Straw Man

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29. The pertinent question is ...

Thu Jul 18, 2024, 10:59 AM

Jul 2024

It absolutely makes a huge difference if Trump exaggerated the cause and severity of his wounds.

To whom? Is there anyone who wasn't going to vote for him but will because he has been hit by a bullet? Is there anyone who was going to vote for him but won't if it was only debris?

The obvious answer to both those questions is "No." Sure, he will grandstand and bloviate, but that will only confirm prior beliefs, both for and against him. In the end, it doesn't matter.

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Yes, the distinction between debris and bullet *is* important. [View all] Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 OP

Speaking as a veteran, there is no distinction Abnredleg Jul 2024 #1

Rhetorical implications are pivotal here. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 #3

Those who believe in truth aren't voting for Trump Kaleva Jul 2024 #4

Anything minimal matters in this election. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 #6

Anyone who still thinks Trump is a viable candidate Kaleva Jul 2024 #11

You get it - that stuff matters in a way that radius777 Jul 2024 #46

No. It makes no difference to "I took a bullet for you". muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #14

If the truth mattered to everyone whopis01 Jul 2024 #34

Exactly this Dorian Gray Jul 2024 #47

speaking as a veteran Skittles Jul 2024 #37

Why is the G.O.P. treating this like a State Secret? BoRaGard Jul 2024 #48

Agree DeepWinter Jul 2024 #56

With purple hearts they don't care if it was a bullet or shrapnel but you won't hear a guy who was wounded by brewens Jul 2024 #2

It's meat for his base Kaleva Jul 2024 #5

Exactly. I've been waiting for the medical details all week for this very reason. themaguffin Jul 2024 #7

Just stop with this Bluedawgbill Jul 2024 #8

We just want the truth. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 #9

It's silly to compare a shooting with a war zone Zeitghost Jul 2024 #15

It's not crazy to say we don't know the facts. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 #18

Again, we have the truth Zeitghost Jul 2024 #24

Not to quibble Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #16

About everyone. It doesn't make any practical difference. TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #36

To everyone Bluedawgbill Jul 2024 #49

But the conspiracies aren't hurting Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #50

I guarantee you if the shooter had been an illegal immigrant Skittles Jul 2024 #38

Ear lobe?? He got hit in the ear lobe? Got a pic of that? Bengus81 Jul 2024 #52

An assassination attempt is an assassination attempt Takket Jul 2024 #10

That bullet on the video may not have hit him Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #26

hey. the fix is in. barbtries Jul 2024 #12

They'll fire the woman that heads the Secret Service and it will never be talked about again Bengus81 Jul 2024 #53

And there's a reason no medical information has come out. sinkingfeeling Jul 2024 #13

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Farmer-Rick Jul 2024 #21

I've been making this case for the last 5 days Pototan Jul 2024 #17

The pertinent question is ... Straw Man Jul 2024 #29

To the low information 10% Pototan Jul 2024 #35

They're already firmly in his camp. Straw Man Jul 2024 #39

If that 10% is for Trump Pototan Jul 2024 #40

Anybody who doesn't already know he's a liar is beyond convincing. Straw Man Jul 2024 #42

Snopes says it was a bullet, that's enough for me. KS Toronado Jul 2024 #19

The distinction between conspiracies and fact are also important. Renew Deal Jul 2024 #20

Recommended this post hamsterjill Jul 2024 #22

Eric was quoted as saying something about 'blowing half his ear off'. rubbersole Jul 2024 #23

Q: Does a bullet wound require a giant tampon bandage? AZ8theist Jul 2024 #25

Soldiers "take bullets for us"... ECL213 Jul 2024 #27

A lie is a lie. Trump lies. SO damn done with his lies and getting away with it. LizBeth Jul 2024 #28

One would have to be stupid to not suspect skanky doings BoRaGard Jul 2024 #30

Debris ! republianmushroom Jul 2024 #31

THIS: "My read: If the medical evaluation matched Trump's description, he would have OK'd its release." demmiblue Jul 2024 #32

What ever happened to ballistics. Arne Jul 2024 #33

All this ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #41

Nowhere here am I denying an assassination attempt. Tommy Carcetti Jul 2024 #54

I am ForgedCrank Jul 2024 #60

I'm with you Tommy canetoad Jul 2024 #43

test the theory manicdem Jul 2024 #44

I don't care what the F he was hit by and quite frankly had grown weary of the all the speculation by day two. B.See Jul 2024 #45

Not this claudette Jul 2024 #51

Meh dweller Jul 2024 #55

Are we still with this bullet or debris stuff? It's already been argued back and forth... brush Jul 2024 #57

I still think the bullet hit the debris. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #58

Kick and rec. Kingofalldems Jul 2024 #59