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ecstatic

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22. The problem isn't Biden, it's our inability to unite around him.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 04:20 PM
Jul 2024

We can stick by Biden all day long, but if at least 95% of Democrats are not right there with us, we lose. When we're united and in lockstep, the media follows and voters follow. So getting our own house in order is the most important thing that is needed to win.

There are three factions right now:
1: Those who absolutely and unconditionally support Biden
2: Those who absolutely want a replacement (most elected Democrats?)
3: Those who just want to win, regardless of who the candidate is

Faction 2 isn't budging and they're not going to. They don't do the unconditional blind support thing. They see what they see and it's hard to dispute what they're saying because they're right: Biden is old. On TV at times he looks around 90 years old. Faction 2 members are terrified whenever Biden speaks instead of just relaxing and going with the flow and excusing away any gaffes the way we've done for years.

So now the question is, are Factions 1 and 2 willing to ENTHUSIASTICALLY unite around Kamala Harris?

Either way, this is a fucked up situation. Biden has more physical symptoms of aging because of how hard he works everyday. His immense knowledge and wisdom is still there but people are complaining about the presentation.

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Should Joe Biden step down? (Poll) [View all] orangecrush Jul 2024 OP
I think the time for him to step down has passed. bif Jul 2024 #1
The Supreme Court opened the gates of hell orangecrush Jul 2024 #3
Apparently many Party Leaders are thinking that happens either way. maxsolomon Jul 2024 #6
Party leaders are looking at the poll numbers - which are collapsing on all fronts. PeaceWave Jul 2024 #14
Agreed. That ship has sailed by now. 0rganism Jul 2024 #12
I fail to see Mz Pip Jul 2024 #2
It's crazy orangecrush Jul 2024 #4
MUST BE Harris or we will not win one state krawhitham Jul 2024 #9
Dems will win WA no matter who is nominated. Same for OR & CA. maxsolomon Jul 2024 #15
I agree. Mz Pip Jul 2024 #17
Where is wryter2000 Jul 2024 #5
You just said it. orangecrush Jul 2024 #7
Hell no! berniesandersmittens Jul 2024 #11
Beat me to it! we can do it Jul 2024 #25
The TOS says advocating for it is against the rules Sympthsical Jul 2024 #8
NO! lees1975 Jul 2024 #10
How about unknown??? I'm in a state of total confusion. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #13
Democracy isn't about experts orangecrush Jul 2024 #20
If you want a fair poll... BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #16
And what would a "fair poll" be? The Russian ones that the media uses that used to be recognizeable? lees1975 Jul 2024 #33
The same question without a preamble would be fairer, yes. BlueCheeseAgain Jul 2024 #34
Absolutely not DemonGoddess Jul 2024 #18
Can we send our poll results to Biden to cheer him up? BigmanPigman Jul 2024 #19
I don't see why not orangecrush Jul 2024 #21
The problem isn't Biden, it's our inability to unite around him. ecstatic Jul 2024 #22
Rightly or wrongly, optics have been the deciding factor in a number of Presidential elections. Silent Type Jul 2024 #26
I am supporting the Biden-Harris ticket LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #23
Biden should have stuck with the transitional president idea... polichick Jul 2024 #24
I originally thought yes Polybius Jul 2024 #27
Hell No! LoisB Jul 2024 #28
When they go low, we vote Joe jmbar2 Jul 2024 #29
Only step down if some NEW MEDICAL diagnosis making him unable to serve, in which case he resigns immediately Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #30
I believe orangecrush Jul 2024 #35
Dark Brandon is Our Best Candidate PikaBlue Jul 2024 #31
I believe orangecrush Jul 2024 #32
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