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Cowpunk

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9. It's the economy, as always.

Thu Sep 19, 2024, 03:23 PM

Sep 2024

People who don't care much about politics, who don't align with one party or the other, blame the party of the president when they perceive the economy to be bad. There are a lot of them.
Housing prices are high. Retail prices are high. While unemployment is low, the jobs that are available do not pay well. They don't feel they are getting ahead and statistics won't change their minds.

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Why is this race even close? [View all] LilElf70 Sep 2024 OP

Propaganda elleng Sep 2024 #1

FOX and other media outlets are Trump 24/7 Johonny Sep 2024 #11

Yup, right wing bullshit rules the media. Initech Sep 2024 #28

Yes. Codifer Sep 2024 #51

It's more than that PhilosopherKing Sep 2024 #98

Yes, but reporting a close race isn't a money maker for the media. They need heightened awareness to rake it in. nature-lover Sep 2024 #103

Apathy, ignorance and the fact that bet. 25-30% of the electorate appear to be psychotic. On Edit: Carlitos Brigante Sep 2024 #2

Grew up in South, so I'm familiar with ignorant white wingers. But, dang, there appear to be a lot more than I thought. Silent Type Sep 2024 #3

So true. They had so much fun tea partying against Obama, that they allegorical oracle Sep 2024 #86

Exactly. B.See Sep 2024 #93

Ask my Dad. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #4

Republicans are totally fine with women dying from abortion laws Freddie Sep 2024 #7

Stop with those gray areas! maxsolomon Sep 2024 #37

One drumpster told me that she "had to see for herself" before she allegorical oracle Sep 2024 #94

Not true. They saw Jan 6 and still says didnt happen. The saw the fridges and still said no LizBeth Sep 2024 #107

Not only do want abortions Mad_Machine76 Sep 2024 #27

But state reproductive mandates are consistently winning by 8 to 12 percent Buckeyeblue Sep 2024 #97

Not with my Dad. It's abortion and the steady drumbeat of FoxNews. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #109

Why is this race even close?????? rich7862 Sep 2024 #5

Totally disgusted with all the TFG signs around here Freddie Sep 2024 #6

Pennsatucky grammiepammie Sep 2024 #78

We're importing illegals so they can vote for Democrats! Freddie Sep 2024 #83

Tribalism stoked by Trump and RW Noise machine JCMach1 Sep 2024 #8

It's the economy, as always. Cowpunk Sep 2024 #9

I wonder that all the time. I wish we knew more about Trump voters and their motivations. LAS14 Sep 2024 #10

But we could have 50% of the country B.See Sep 2024 #92

Perhaps for some of them. But they can't all be the same. Any more than all Dems are the same. nt LAS14 Sep 2024 #95

Perhaps for some, many, if not most, BUT B.See Sep 2024 #108

You hit the nail on the head PhilosopherKing Sep 2024 #99

women have to be twice as good to be considered half as good Skittles Sep 2024 #12

An inexplicably large portion of the population (the MAGA cult) has been brainwashed... Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #13

Sister just stopped by to visit an old neighbor near Riverside CA vapor2 Sep 2024 #14

The GO-Fascists have comandeered racism, misogyny, and money/power-grubbing "religion" (I use that term very loosely). usonian Sep 2024 #15

Great answer and direct vapor2 Sep 2024 #19

Fear of monsters and non-conformists. Ping Tung Sep 2024 #16

When it comes to Democrats, this is what Trumpers think. Different Drummer Sep 2024 #44

Ingrained bigotry, cultivated greivance, and some 50 years of propaganda JHB Sep 2024 #17

I will say this at the risk of angering the poll apologists. lees1975 Sep 2024 #18

Yeah I'm not sure how he could have corrupted all the polling, unblock Sep 2024 #24

It isn't manipulation, it is the pollsters. No one wants to read about runaway victories. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 2024 #45

A little bit of money goes a long way in some of these polling firms, who are mostly marketing pollsters. lees1975 Sep 2024 #67

If they wanted to skew things, it's super easy unblock Sep 2024 #69

I tend to agree. Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #30

Neither do I, I don't think it is close at all. onecaliberal Sep 2024 #80

I have heard quite a few of them say, Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #20

Yeah, his "policies," which are pure fascist authoritarianism. Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #32

What policies? LilElf70 Sep 2024 #47

To me, they are saying Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #49

Yes PhilosopherKing Sep 2024 #100

The Project 2025 nightmare "policies" Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #61

His concepts of policies. nt still-prayin4rain Sep 2024 #112

The media is bending over backwards to support the right wing unblock Sep 2024 #21

The media is owned by millionaires and billionaires questionseverything Sep 2024 #36

Yes. But that alone doesn't explain it. unblock Sep 2024 #40

It's not the media's fault some people are so blatantly stupid. ificandream Sep 2024 #85

Yes we need the media but we need them to do their job properly, not be an amplifier for unblock Sep 2024 #88

But they are .... ificandream Sep 2024 #90

Closed minds Bayard Sep 2024 #22

This is what takes my breath away . . . hawkeye21 Sep 2024 #23

Sadly, because of Trump LilElf70 Sep 2024 #46

Because of Several Things Willto Sep 2024 #25

One thing for sure LilElf70 Sep 2024 #38

Because 50% of Americans are idiots. bif Sep 2024 #26

That's a shitpot full of LilElf70 Sep 2024 #35

Less close with each passing day. The trends are all in our favor and there Sibelius Fan Sep 2024 #29

He got a boost from Sunday's shooter at the golf course LeftInTX Sep 2024 #71

Because Trump leads with white voters by 15+ points depending on the poll BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #31

Trump has some powerful billionaire backers who want him in office to do their bidding. jalan48 Sep 2024 #33

At this point Drumpf couldn't tell bidding from a bidet. rzemanfl Sep 2024 #53

He just has to deregulate and deliver tax cuts. If he couldn't he would have been ditched by these rich donors. jalan48 Sep 2024 #63

Decades of Faux and AM talk radio repeating that Democrats are evil incarnate. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #34

It's more absurd than Monty Python's Election Night Special! nt Shermann Sep 2024 #39

Decades of RW talk and TV ok_cpu Sep 2024 #41

I have a theory why elections often are wacky. usonian Sep 2024 #42

I stopped trying to figure that out Mysterian Sep 2024 #43

Corporations are screwing us and Republicans blame the government. Democrats want a strong functioning government. rainin Sep 2024 #48

Strong government is at the heart of the issue. The two parties have allegorical oracle Sep 2024 #105

IMO, the cable news outlets want Trump to win because they think, from past experience... Different Drummer Sep 2024 #50

You are right it should not be. I am hoping it is because women and young people are being under polled JohnSJ Sep 2024 #52

Racism is strong...sexism is strong JT45242 Sep 2024 #54

1 word Botany Sep 2024 #55

Longer word displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #101

Some of Trump's supporters also enjoy that he acts like a nasty asshole too. Botany Sep 2024 #106

Patience. Wait until the last half of October. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2024 #56

I'm wondering if LilElf70 Sep 2024 #58

It was a religious event and they told him "no campaigning". So, he cancelled. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #72

Yeah, he's wrong Polybius Sep 2024 #66

Th American media is awash in propaganda. onecaliberal Sep 2024 #57

He has said 20 or more different things that would, without question, disqualify a Democrat. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2024 #59

Lack of critical thinking. Xolodno Sep 2024 #60

The Apprentice, Fucx Snuz, Rush Limbaugh,... magicarpet Sep 2024 #62

I think a lot of people hate "the system" and see trump as an alternative to "the system" as a whole. D23MIURG23 Sep 2024 #64

People have all sorts of ways of deluding themselves and avoiding reality. betsuni Sep 2024 #65

I never bought the narrative this election would ever be close, no matter who the Democrat running was. valleyrogue Sep 2024 #68

That's not true. He's got adoring fans. I'm also on another type of message board. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #73

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"still thinks people are eating pets" Martin Eden Sep 2024 #74

The way I see him LilElf70 Sep 2024 #75

Yes, it's distressing that TFG polls above the 20% you cited Martin Eden Sep 2024 #84

There a tremendous number of ignorant voters in the US for starters. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2024 #76

A big problem is the media. Most of them are treating Trump as a normal candidate when, in fact, Vinca Sep 2024 #77

Just watch Fox/Newsmax etc. Picaro Sep 2024 #79

There are some people who are just turned off by our message of inclusion. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 2024 #81

Because our media is only in it for profit & our electoral process has been turned into a huge profit making industry. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #82

I'm not sure it really is close. The Harris campaign, which texts me frequently asking for additional... NNadir Sep 2024 #87

Massive numbers of willfully stupid people. (nt) Paladin Sep 2024 #89

Because half the people in this country are worthless bigots. alarimer Sep 2024 #91

Two big things jump out. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #96

Republicans ignore the fact that trump is a cheap Klarkashton Sep 2024 #102

Masses of voters are ignorant, or lazy, or brainwashed. CanonRay Sep 2024 #104

Because over half the country believes TheFarseer Sep 2024 #110

They're barking up the wrong tree LilElf70 Sep 2024 #111