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Cyrano

(15,343 posts) Sun Sep 22, 2024, 01:26 PM Sep 2024

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In 2016, we KNEW that Hillary was going to win [View all]

It was an absolute certainty that she was going to be our next president. Until she wasn't.

Late that Tuesday night, we couldn't grasp that, somehow, someway, Trump won.

We can't let that happen again. Whatever you're doing, don't let up.

Republicans are doing everything possible to steal it.

Keep working for a Kamala win like she's 20 points behind.

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In 2016, we KNEW that Hillary was going to win [View all] Cyrano Sep 2024 OP

I'll never forget this... Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #1

Great clip. And a great reminder. Cyrano Sep 2024 #4

Wow I forgot about that! kimbutgar Sep 2024 #10

I went to bed that night absolutely sick to my stomach. Aristus Sep 2024 #57

I feel for you! kimbutgar Sep 2024 #63

In his monologue right before that sketch, Mr. Chapelle also famously said Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #13

I remember that dismal dreary night 0rganism Sep 2024 #79

There were a few here that kept saying "Dont be so sure" oldsoftie Sep 2024 #2

And there were a few of us Beside ourselves with disbelief when we heard people say Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #5

I have a leftist cousin who voted for Stein. She was down on Biden, too. LuvLoogie Sep 2024 #56

This person is an idiot, sorry...I know them, they are all idiots. I would LOVE for one to be BRAVE Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #62

Its like you could lose a toe or a leg & they say "Take the leg!!" oldsoftie Sep 2024 #68

And even in '20 1/3 of eligible voters STILL didnt vote!! nt oldsoftie Sep 2024 #67

And believe it or not in 2022 AFTER Roe was overturned, I repeat AFTER Roe overturned Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #88

While the 2022 youth vote was down slightly from 2018, it's actually been trending upward for the last decade or two. progressoid Sep 2024 #94

I predict it'll hit 40% or higher in 2024 Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #104

That would be massive. Hope you're right. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #112

Interestingly, I remember it not like that at all. Not after Comey's surprise. paleotn Sep 2024 #37

And GOTV!!!!!! Thats how to win enough of those battle ground states. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #132

And the replies were always "thank you for your concern" Polybius Sep 2024 #125

That DOES bring back memories!! Forgot that one. nt oldsoftie Sep 2024 #131

Why are you skipping 2020 malaise Sep 2024 #3

3:45 AM CST Mister Ed Sep 2024 #44

Love it malaise Sep 2024 #49

Well, I was so spooked by 2016 Farmer-Rick Sep 2024 #51

But it was A LOT closer than anyone here expected Polybius Sep 2024 #126

When Brexit passed drmeow Sep 2024 #6

Same. It was a bad harbinger. Danmel Sep 2024 #15

That's when I knew she did not stand a chance Tumbulu Sep 2024 #98

I remember DU scorching Michael Moore in July 2016 when he dared to say Clinton would lose in MI, OH, PA, & WI. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #122

I Had The Exact RobinA Sep 2024 #123

I tried to tell myself I was wrong drmeow Sep 2024 #128

We knew something was off in 2016, and did not know Hillary would win. we can do it Sep 2024 #7

"fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" DoBW Sep 2024 #34

I didn't senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #8

I think most of us felt that way whopis01 Sep 2024 #99

I did not have a good feeling about Hillary epreic01 Sep 2024 #9

"He's not bought and paid for and corrupted by donors." Wednesdays Sep 2024 #31

a lot of people try to pin this on Comey stopdiggin Sep 2024 #11

Comey concedes he may have been responsible for Trump's election LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #32

Only Thing Trump Ever Did Right Aepps22 Sep 2024 #50

I really don't care what JC has to say - (strictly one more opinion) stopdiggin Sep 2024 #59

Exactly. Exclude Comey, trump's lies, etc., and we still would have won except for Democrats protesting Silent Type Sep 2024 #39

I think a lot of voters were just sick and tired of hearing about Hillary's email BS. Ligyron Sep 2024 #114

Hillary was so sure that she would win that she didn't bother to make a single campaign appearance here in Wisconsin. elocs Sep 2024 #12

The campaign pretty much dropped the ball in Michigan, too. demmiblue Sep 2024 #52

She spent more money in advertising and had a larger GTOV ground game in Michigan than Obama did in 2012. StevieM Sep 2024 #84

I didn't BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #14

She had some impressive campaigning moments in her career. StevieM Sep 2024 #130

Details are not similar LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #16

In Addition... ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #28

Also the progressives and moderates Tree Lady Sep 2024 #74

Knock on wood... RevBrotherThomas Sep 2024 #121

Hillary had a lot of negatives (undeserved) both among the public, from the hatchet jobs all over, and among some dems. usonian Sep 2024 #17

Yes, Kamala travels light. Not much baggage Sneederbunk Sep 2024 #18

That's right. By 2016 Hillary had been vilified by right wing media for 25 years Buckeyeblue Sep 2024 #118

It took a lot of work to convince people that she was unpopular, unlikeable and couldn't connect with people. betsuni Sep 2024 #119

Unfortunately, I knew well before. Jirel Sep 2024 #19

I didn't snpsmom Sep 2024 #20

This, all day long. mahina Sep 2024 #21

I live in San Francisco, BigDemVoter Sep 2024 #22

I live across the bay in Berkeley Phil1967 Sep 2024 #45

There are more Trump supporters around the Bay Area than surmised Sympthsical Sep 2024 #73

I heard a clip of a Hilary speech Phil1967 Sep 2024 #23

The day I read that Hillary, whom I respect deeply and knew would excell, had won the primary, I thought "oh shit, mahina Sep 2024 #24

I remember election night too well caraher Sep 2024 #25

Don't forget DownriverDem Sep 2024 #26

I also will never forgive or forget Comey's role LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #36

After the October surprise? Oh hell no. After that, we did not KNOW Hillary was going to win. paleotn Sep 2024 #27

I know who deserves the blame. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #29

I agree. betsuni Sep 2024 #71

Comey. Remember that fu_ker and the last minute crap he pulled? brush Sep 2024 #30

Yep. Won't EVER forget. calimary Sep 2024 #127

The main factor was Comey and the MSM pushing the LIE that the email JohnSJ Sep 2024 #33

I thought it could go either way Kaleva Sep 2024 #35

I was in the Harris County Voter Protection war room LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #38

I think Kamala has a better chance than Hillary. She's overall a better candidate. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #40

I've seen so many posts like this... Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #41

Let's also not forget... Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #42

Heartbreaking but true. Bitbit Sep 2024 #109

Honestly I'm really tired of seeing posts like this vercetti2021 Sep 2024 #43

I described myself then as I describe myself now - guardedly optimistic. cab67 Sep 2024 #46

How do we know she didn't win? Puppyjive Sep 2024 #47

Yeah, much like W's wins(?) Farmer-Rick Sep 2024 #58

i never thought HRC would win bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #48

She completely ignored Wisconsin. I wasn't the least bit surprised to see him win. yourout Sep 2024 #55

I now remember Brad Parscale and his data. Trump burned a bridge! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #60

I remember it quite differently delisen Sep 2024 #85

This!!!! Thank-you!! Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #116

Maybe some of us did, but I wasn't one of them, even though I played positivity as much as I could ms liberty Sep 2024 #53

The popular vote is not enough. Hillary proved that. live love laugh Sep 2024 #54

So did 2001 LeftInTX Sep 2024 #61

Yep. live love laugh Sep 2024 #78

Yes, chef! Native Sep 2024 #64

I thought Trump would win Actually. But I agree with you. sky_masterson Sep 2024 #65

I never stopped worrying about Hillary being unable to beat Trump Rocknation Sep 2024 #66

I never thought Hillary would win, the Republicans beat her with the Benghazi doc03 Sep 2024 #69

Precisely! It's why I emphasize B.See Sep 2024 #70

Alan Lichtman predicted that Trump would win in 2016 Poiuyt Sep 2024 #72

Do people think Trump won by a landslide or something? 40,000 more votes for Hillary in Michigan, Wisconsin betsuni Sep 2024 #75

No we didn't. It was Comey and the media lying about the email investigation being reopened that caused JohnSJ Sep 2024 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Sep 2024 #77

I was absolutely sure that Hillary was going to win in 2016. ShazzieB Sep 2024 #80

"Who's 'we', kimosabe?" regnaD kciN Sep 2024 #81

You're forgetting one thing. Patton French Sep 2024 #82

What office is she running for in 2026? MichMan Sep 2024 #87

Huh? Patton French Sep 2024 #89

i don't want to fight like we're 20 points down... da svenster Sep 2024 #83

Only once in my lifetime has the same party won three presidential elections in a row. MichMan Sep 2024 #86

Think most of us were stunned when Hillary lost. But . . . peggysue2 Sep 2024 #90

Vlad won 2016. czarjak Sep 2024 #91

Yup, I knew it. Found out the truth on NPR while I was driving to work. Felt sick to my stomach, and depressed for a Martin68 Sep 2024 #92

----this DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #93

no. i mainly observed 2016 from a distance. i saw how the media was pimping trump + hitting hillary all the time. pansypoo53219 Sep 2024 #95

No, Obama's pick for VP was Kaine or Biden, chose Biden. What's the problem with Kaine? betsuni Sep 2024 #106

the convention mess. she wasn't a good campaigner + she was running against a huckster. she needed a big name. pansypoo53219 Sep 2024 #133

No. When close friends and family, lifelong Dems, were saying they refused to vote for anyone but Sanders, it was over. Runningdawg Sep 2024 #96

Having republican Comey come out 12 days before election oldmanlynn Sep 2024 #97

20 points behind? Pototan Sep 2024 #100

But Kamala does not have a Comey problem videohead5 Sep 2024 #101

There is a historian that correctly predicted the past 10 presidential elections. Kablooie Sep 2024 #102

Maybe people who never looked at the state polls krawhitham Sep 2024 #103

What were the state polls? betsuni Sep 2024 #105

Yup, GOTV , GOTV , GOTV! BlueWavePsych Sep 2024 #107

I don't remember that "we" were sure of that. The Electoral College has always been the problem. pnwmom Sep 2024 #108

Lots of people's brains were like Never Trumper Republican Tim Miller's: betsuni Sep 2024 #110

My wife keeps reminding me we thought he wouldnt win before ScubaSteve Sep 2024 #111

fight until the ashes are cold DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #113

And in 2000, we knew that Al Gore would win and defeat the "all hat, no cattle" man in the election. LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #115

Remember all the snickering about how great it was to be running against Trump? n/t Shrek Sep 2024 #117

What I knew, and still know: MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2024 #120

Sadly, at least one of us understood PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2024 #124

did we? quakerboy Sep 2024 #129

The enthusiasm level, the rally crowds, the voter registration efforts, and where the campaign is reaching out to voters lees1975 Sep 2024 #134