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59. I really don't care what JC has to say - (strictly one more opinion)

Sun Sep 22, 2024, 04:06 PM

Sep 2024

the emails meant exactly diddly to me - and you - and virtually anyone else that was not predisposed - to 'sticking it to' Clinton - and by extension the country as well.

I'll stick with my own opinion here - and remain quite comfortable in doing so.
Dicking with democracy!

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In 2016, we KNEW that Hillary was going to win [View all] Cyrano Sep 2024 OP

I'll never forget this... Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #1

Great clip. And a great reminder. Cyrano Sep 2024 #4

Wow I forgot about that! kimbutgar Sep 2024 #10

I went to bed that night absolutely sick to my stomach. Aristus Sep 2024 #57

I feel for you! kimbutgar Sep 2024 #63

In his monologue right before that sketch, Mr. Chapelle also famously said Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #13

I remember that dismal dreary night 0rganism Sep 2024 #79

There were a few here that kept saying "Dont be so sure" oldsoftie Sep 2024 #2

And there were a few of us Beside ourselves with disbelief when we heard people say Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #5

I have a leftist cousin who voted for Stein. She was down on Biden, too. LuvLoogie Sep 2024 #56

This person is an idiot, sorry...I know them, they are all idiots. I would LOVE for one to be BRAVE Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #62

Its like you could lose a toe or a leg & they say "Take the leg!!" oldsoftie Sep 2024 #68

And even in '20 1/3 of eligible voters STILL didnt vote!! nt oldsoftie Sep 2024 #67

And believe it or not in 2022 AFTER Roe was overturned, I repeat AFTER Roe overturned Eliot Rosewater Sep 2024 #88

While the 2022 youth vote was down slightly from 2018, it's actually been trending upward for the last decade or two. progressoid Sep 2024 #94

I predict it'll hit 40% or higher in 2024 Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #104

That would be massive. Hope you're right. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #112

Interestingly, I remember it not like that at all. Not after Comey's surprise. paleotn Sep 2024 #37

And GOTV!!!!!! Thats how to win enough of those battle ground states. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #132

And the replies were always "thank you for your concern" Polybius Sep 2024 #125

That DOES bring back memories!! Forgot that one. nt oldsoftie Sep 2024 #131

Why are you skipping 2020 malaise Sep 2024 #3

3:45 AM CST Mister Ed Sep 2024 #44

Love it malaise Sep 2024 #49

Well, I was so spooked by 2016 Farmer-Rick Sep 2024 #51

But it was A LOT closer than anyone here expected Polybius Sep 2024 #126

When Brexit passed drmeow Sep 2024 #6

Same. It was a bad harbinger. Danmel Sep 2024 #15

That's when I knew she did not stand a chance Tumbulu Sep 2024 #98

I remember DU scorching Michael Moore in July 2016 when he dared to say Clinton would lose in MI, OH, PA, & WI. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #122

I Had The Exact RobinA Sep 2024 #123

I tried to tell myself I was wrong drmeow Sep 2024 #128

We knew something was off in 2016, and did not know Hillary would win. we can do it Sep 2024 #7

"fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me" DoBW Sep 2024 #34

I didn't senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #8

I think most of us felt that way whopis01 Sep 2024 #99

I did not have a good feeling about Hillary epreic01 Sep 2024 #9

"He's not bought and paid for and corrupted by donors." Wednesdays Sep 2024 #31

a lot of people try to pin this on Comey stopdiggin Sep 2024 #11

Comey concedes he may have been responsible for Trump's election LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #32

Only Thing Trump Ever Did Right Aepps22 Sep 2024 #50

I really don't care what JC has to say - (strictly one more opinion) stopdiggin Sep 2024 #59

Exactly. Exclude Comey, trump's lies, etc., and we still would have won except for Democrats protesting Silent Type Sep 2024 #39

I think a lot of voters were just sick and tired of hearing about Hillary's email BS. Ligyron Sep 2024 #114

Hillary was so sure that she would win that she didn't bother to make a single campaign appearance here in Wisconsin. elocs Sep 2024 #12

The campaign pretty much dropped the ball in Michigan, too. demmiblue Sep 2024 #52

She spent more money in advertising and had a larger GTOV ground game in Michigan than Obama did in 2012. StevieM Sep 2024 #84

I didn't BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #14

She had some impressive campaigning moments in her career. StevieM Sep 2024 #130

Details are not similar LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #16

In Addition... ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #28

Also the progressives and moderates Tree Lady Sep 2024 #74

Knock on wood... RevBrotherThomas Sep 2024 #121

Hillary had a lot of negatives (undeserved) both among the public, from the hatchet jobs all over, and among some dems. usonian Sep 2024 #17

Yes, Kamala travels light. Not much baggage Sneederbunk Sep 2024 #18

That's right. By 2016 Hillary had been vilified by right wing media for 25 years Buckeyeblue Sep 2024 #118

It took a lot of work to convince people that she was unpopular, unlikeable and couldn't connect with people. betsuni Sep 2024 #119

Unfortunately, I knew well before. Jirel Sep 2024 #19

I didn't snpsmom Sep 2024 #20

This, all day long. mahina Sep 2024 #21

I live in San Francisco, BigDemVoter Sep 2024 #22

I live across the bay in Berkeley Phil1967 Sep 2024 #45

There are more Trump supporters around the Bay Area than surmised Sympthsical Sep 2024 #73

I heard a clip of a Hilary speech Phil1967 Sep 2024 #23

The day I read that Hillary, whom I respect deeply and knew would excell, had won the primary, I thought "oh shit, mahina Sep 2024 #24

I remember election night too well caraher Sep 2024 #25

Don't forget DownriverDem Sep 2024 #26

I also will never forgive or forget Comey's role LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #36

After the October surprise? Oh hell no. After that, we did not KNOW Hillary was going to win. paleotn Sep 2024 #27

I know who deserves the blame. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #29

I agree. betsuni Sep 2024 #71

Comey. Remember that fu_ker and the last minute crap he pulled? brush Sep 2024 #30

Yep. Won't EVER forget. calimary Sep 2024 #127

The main factor was Comey and the MSM pushing the LIE that the email JohnSJ Sep 2024 #33

I thought it could go either way Kaleva Sep 2024 #35

I was in the Harris County Voter Protection war room LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #38

I think Kamala has a better chance than Hillary. She's overall a better candidate. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #40

I've seen so many posts like this... Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #41

Let's also not forget... Trueblue Texan Sep 2024 #42

Heartbreaking but true. Bitbit Sep 2024 #109

Honestly I'm really tired of seeing posts like this vercetti2021 Sep 2024 #43

I described myself then as I describe myself now - guardedly optimistic. cab67 Sep 2024 #46

How do we know she didn't win? Puppyjive Sep 2024 #47

Yeah, much like W's wins(?) Farmer-Rick Sep 2024 #58

i never thought HRC would win bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #48

She completely ignored Wisconsin. I wasn't the least bit surprised to see him win. yourout Sep 2024 #55

I now remember Brad Parscale and his data. Trump burned a bridge! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #60

I remember it quite differently delisen Sep 2024 #85

This!!!! Thank-you!! Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #116

Maybe some of us did, but I wasn't one of them, even though I played positivity as much as I could ms liberty Sep 2024 #53

The popular vote is not enough. Hillary proved that. live love laugh Sep 2024 #54

So did 2001 LeftInTX Sep 2024 #61

Yep. live love laugh Sep 2024 #78

Yes, chef! Native Sep 2024 #64

I thought Trump would win Actually. But I agree with you. sky_masterson Sep 2024 #65

I never stopped worrying about Hillary being unable to beat Trump Rocknation Sep 2024 #66

I never thought Hillary would win, the Republicans beat her with the Benghazi doc03 Sep 2024 #69

Precisely! It's why I emphasize B.See Sep 2024 #70

Alan Lichtman predicted that Trump would win in 2016 Poiuyt Sep 2024 #72

Do people think Trump won by a landslide or something? 40,000 more votes for Hillary in Michigan, Wisconsin betsuni Sep 2024 #75

No we didn't. It was Comey and the media lying about the email investigation being reopened that caused JohnSJ Sep 2024 #76

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I was absolutely sure that Hillary was going to win in 2016. ShazzieB Sep 2024 #80

"Who's 'we', kimosabe?" regnaD kciN Sep 2024 #81

You're forgetting one thing. Patton French Sep 2024 #82

What office is she running for in 2026? MichMan Sep 2024 #87

Huh? Patton French Sep 2024 #89

i don't want to fight like we're 20 points down... da svenster Sep 2024 #83

Only once in my lifetime has the same party won three presidential elections in a row. MichMan Sep 2024 #86

Think most of us were stunned when Hillary lost. But . . . peggysue2 Sep 2024 #90

Vlad won 2016. czarjak Sep 2024 #91

Yup, I knew it. Found out the truth on NPR while I was driving to work. Felt sick to my stomach, and depressed for a Martin68 Sep 2024 #92

----this DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #93

no. i mainly observed 2016 from a distance. i saw how the media was pimping trump + hitting hillary all the time. pansypoo53219 Sep 2024 #95

No, Obama's pick for VP was Kaine or Biden, chose Biden. What's the problem with Kaine? betsuni Sep 2024 #106

the convention mess. she wasn't a good campaigner + she was running against a huckster. she needed a big name. pansypoo53219 Sep 2024 #133

No. When close friends and family, lifelong Dems, were saying they refused to vote for anyone but Sanders, it was over. Runningdawg Sep 2024 #96

Having republican Comey come out 12 days before election oldmanlynn Sep 2024 #97

20 points behind? Pototan Sep 2024 #100

But Kamala does not have a Comey problem videohead5 Sep 2024 #101

There is a historian that correctly predicted the past 10 presidential elections. Kablooie Sep 2024 #102

Maybe people who never looked at the state polls krawhitham Sep 2024 #103

What were the state polls? betsuni Sep 2024 #105

Yup, GOTV , GOTV , GOTV! BlueWavePsych Sep 2024 #107

I don't remember that "we" were sure of that. The Electoral College has always been the problem. pnwmom Sep 2024 #108

Lots of people's brains were like Never Trumper Republican Tim Miller's: betsuni Sep 2024 #110

My wife keeps reminding me we thought he wouldnt win before ScubaSteve Sep 2024 #111

fight until the ashes are cold DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #113

And in 2000, we knew that Al Gore would win and defeat the "all hat, no cattle" man in the election. LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #115

Remember all the snickering about how great it was to be running against Trump? n/t Shrek Sep 2024 #117

What I knew, and still know: MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2024 #120

Sadly, at least one of us understood PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2024 #124

did we? quakerboy Sep 2024 #129

The enthusiasm level, the rally crowds, the voter registration efforts, and where the campaign is reaching out to voters lees1975 Sep 2024 #134