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Qutzupalotl

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73. Butting in here, but I think the interviewees might be extrapolating their own intentions
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 01:51 AM
Sep 2024

of perhaps a lackluster lean towards Trump to mean than since they won't go to the trouble of standing in line for him, probably a lot of other people feel the same and will stay home too, leading to a Trump loss.

Pollsters say this question of who you think will win is a better predictor of the final outcome than who are you voting for.

Another phenomenon at work here is the bandwagon effect. People want to vote for a winner so they can say they were a part of history. If their candidate should lose, they would be embarrassed, almost as much as if their favorite sports team lost. Picking a winner means they are smart, and they are motivated to feel this. They would stay home rather than have to admit they voted for a loser.

Those who follow the issues can point to X, Y, and Z to explain their voting choice. Those who can't think for themselves are prey to influencers and propagandists, and so they fall back into tribal thinking, bandwagonism, and less intellectually sensible reasons for voting a particular way — but which are nonetheless compelling.

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You always have something cheery for the folks! displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #1
Reality is reality angrychair Sep 2024 #4
came to the same conclusions as you. reality bites sometimes nt msongs Sep 2024 #6
I was thinking the same thing Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #79
Over 100 million eligible voters don't displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #92
In 2020 158 million of 237 million eligible voters PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2024 #110
Amazing. SergeStorms Sep 2024 #132
Misrepresentation NJCher Sep 2024 #117
Exactly like the poll sampling. displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #123
Thank you for posting XanaDUer2 Sep 2024 #98
Conservative media made these people stupid and uninformed. Glaisne Sep 2024 #104
Wow, you sound like me BaronChocula Sep 2024 #133
I watched 2 minutes. My BP went through the roof. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #100
Depressing BlueKentuckyGirl Sep 2024 #127
They know who won Dancing with the Stars. Klarkashton Sep 2024 #2
Bread and circuses, my friend, bread and circuses. Conjuay Sep 2024 #88
Watching now ... jeez. rog Sep 2024 #3
Yep, the only knowledgeable people are pro-Harris RidinWithHarris Sep 2024 #12
"They know more about University of Michigan football team stats..." Wednesdays Sep 2024 #5
Isn't Wagner in Lansing Michigan? Deminpenn Sep 2024 #9
Yes, Lansing. elleng Sep 2024 #11
It's a long slog. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2024 #107
Any women in the group? Any POC? Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2024 #7
Yes, women, elleng Sep 2024 #8
I'm disappointed in the venue she picks to do this...a bar with mostly white, male patronage... brush Sep 2024 #77
THIS !!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Sep 2024 #93
++ appalachiablue Sep 2024 #136
I saw a couple of women angrychair Sep 2024 #10
the young white boys are pretty worried/concerned about the border orleans Sep 2024 #43
I'm tired of the undecided, uninformed voter krkaufman Sep 2024 #57
Yep IbogaProject Sep 2024 #65
Those guys barely knew what Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #80
Sad. Although, I sometimes envy those who don't give a darn about politics. It is stressful these days. Silent Type Sep 2024 #13
It's been stressful bdamomma Sep 2024 #86
Stupid people who don't care about politics soldierant Sep 2024 #138
Honestly I decide not to watch because this crap infuriates me. WHY does their vote count so mucifer Sep 2024 #14
Your vote does matter angrychair Sep 2024 #17
Alrx Wagner peachpit24 Sep 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #33
But she didn't ask him about his fantasy football team. dchill Sep 2024 #34
Where has he (they) been? GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #131
He's s frigging trumper. Who else could be that stupid? KPN Sep 2024 #63
I saw that and wanted to Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #81
I had to turn it off - too depressing. badhair77 Sep 2024 #16
Most of our votes don't count because SharonClark Sep 2024 #18
You are missing it. These are Union building type trades. They dont work in an air-conditioned office. Srkdqltr Sep 2024 #19
So, we are wasting our time on politics here. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2024 #40
I understand what you're saying Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #82
It's awful. I think it is just a poor presentation. GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #20
I agree with you angrychair Sep 2024 #21
Those men bdamomma Sep 2024 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #37
I agree about Alex Wagner GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #61
Gotta love the nimrod who didn't know anything about the "February 6th" trial. rsdsharp Sep 2024 #22
There were so many stupid dopes like him oasis Sep 2024 #60
Very stupid people arent they. Trueblue1968 Sep 2024 #23
Most people have too little leisure time Tweedy Sep 2024 #24
This is part of both why qazplm135 Sep 2024 #51
It is a bad part of our democracy Tweedy Sep 2024 #70
It would be easy to say all these people are stupid, Bayard Sep 2024 #25
Politics may seem boring. But the other part of it is that what they see of it in the news is a turn off. summer_in_TX Sep 2024 #42
Self absorption and lack of leisure time? elleng Sep 2024 #50
That's why the bdamomma Sep 2024 #27
If only we could impress on people that it is their civic duty to stay informed Walleye Sep 2024 #29
they wouldn't care nt orleans Sep 2024 #48
You wonder bdamomma Sep 2024 #87
I just can't believe that women would vote for a rapist. And after that little speech, he gave the other day. Walleye Sep 2024 #96
I honestly don't know how they avoid knowing any facts at all Walleye Sep 2024 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #39
That's so sick bdamomma Sep 2024 #115
I did not watch, BootinUp Sep 2024 #30
That's why Trump is in this race still. Oneironaut Sep 2024 #31
Exactly. Unfortunately, I've come to realize there are more of them than I thought. Silent Type Sep 2024 #54
Yep, and they have the attention Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #84
He speaks in sentences? Conjuay Sep 2024 #90
Ironically, they would think you are out of touch for citing Desperate Housewives. progressoid Sep 2024 #32
If she did this in a local bar Figarosmom Sep 2024 #35
i didn't see the show when it first started, but it looked like a union hall where she was doing this orleans Sep 2024 #52
Yes union hall, building trades, I think. elleng Sep 2024 #78
Expose some of those voters to Tim Walz's mind your own business political philosophy. Freethinker65 Sep 2024 #36
Those were my thoughts too. Grumpy Old Guy Sep 2024 #38
Did you see the end?? Sogo Sep 2024 #41
Probably means they won't vote. GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #62
Why does them saying Trump will not win mean they aren't voting ? JI7 Sep 2024 #64
Because they don't seem very motivated to be involved in the process (to me). GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #66
But how do you connect it to them saying Trump will lose JI7 Sep 2024 #71
Butting in here, but I think the interviewees might be extrapolating their own intentions Qutzupalotl Sep 2024 #73
Sure it connects. GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #75
I didn't hear much passion or conviction crimycarny Sep 2024 #126
It's depressing to live in a country with so many idiots. Turbineguy Sep 2024 #44
Ignorance and markodochartaigh Sep 2024 #45
She let them spew their shit and didn't give them the facts 😖 arthritisR_US Sep 2024 #46
The U of M is on a very liberal town SouthBayDem Sep 2024 #47
I believe they were in Lansing FHRRK Sep 2024 #68
Honestly, they probably look for the ones who are Bettie Sep 2024 #49
But are they motivated, likely voters? Dem4life1970 Sep 2024 #53
I know "young" people moniss Sep 2024 #55
These photos are amazing! Hope22 Sep 2024 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author moniss Sep 2024 #83
Can I say bdamomma Sep 2024 #89
But, there was only broadcast TV Bettie Sep 2024 #95
Yes, that's what their goal bdamomma Sep 2024 #119
I hope so too Bettie Sep 2024 #120
I find these people bdamomma Sep 2024 #121
Excellent points.nt moniss Sep 2024 #97
No MTV, no reality TV, no ESPN, no 24 hour a day sports or financial or news channels to divert attention LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #103
Jackson State killings people Sep 2024 #106
That has pissed me off since 1970. Black Lives did not matter Evolve Dammit Sep 2024 #130
Yes indeed and I've done moniss Sep 2024 #134
They walk among us JoseBalow Sep 2024 #56
Agreed. Very depressing. stollen Sep 2024 #58
Just watched the repeat tonight - you nailed my thoughts exactly. walkingman Sep 2024 #67
The Knownothings czarjak Sep 2024 #72
I haven't seen it yet, but she must have got the same idiots who the NYT use as 'undecided' panels... Violet_Crumble Sep 2024 #74
I get everyone's comments here...Wagner...how long did she search to get "just he right mix?" PortTack Sep 2024 #76
Reminded me of a conversation with relatives IzzaNuDay Sep 2024 #85
Lumpen Proletariat JanMichael Sep 2024 #91
We have the markodochartaigh Sep 2024 #141
that was a joke bigtree Sep 2024 #94
Good news from the old guys WorkDoctor Sep 2024 #99
Americans become more and more childlike with each generation. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #101
Trump's concept of plan bmichaelh Sep 2024 #102
Yep, the know-nothing traitorous POS made Atreus Sep 2024 #105
I've been in the US for the last few days and speaking with colleagues OnDoutside Sep 2024 #108
It was a mixed bag. CrispyQ Sep 2024 #109
What's surprising is that Trump's negatives are the kind of things that make the news, so you'd think he'd be toast muriel_volestrangler Sep 2024 #111
You have to understand that most folks aren't like the people HERE. oldsoftie Sep 2024 #112
I had to turn it off. Schmice3 Sep 2024 #113
If they don't care, they're not voting Generic Brad Sep 2024 #114
I've grown to like Alex Wagner... Upthevibe Sep 2024 #116
I has disheartened as well until I realized Alex was basically polling the Trump demograhic crimycarny Sep 2024 #118
You can't BeneteauBum Sep 2024 #122
LOL-New York Times pitchbot (satire) is a perfect analogy for the Alex interview and type of audience crimycarny Sep 2024 #124
then you need to DO SOMETHING! Go register some voters, make calls, GOTV. ZonkerHarris Sep 2024 #125
Depressing! BlueKentuckyGirl Sep 2024 #128
Reminds me of George Carlin DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2024 #129
I don't share your pessimism. Elessar Zappa Sep 2024 #135
This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Sep 2024 #137
All I can suggest is donate to the campaign & hope they continue TBF Sep 2024 #139
It's not even funny anymore mdbl Sep 2024 #140
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