No, pro Palestinian leftists, Israel is not committing genocide

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12. Your post is ignoring the fact that

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genocide is not solely defined by number of dead over a particular period of time as a percentage of the population. The ICJ has found the conduct to at least merit charges for war crimes against both Hamas leaders and Israeli leaders. Also I don't think it furthers anything to label concerned people as "pro Palestinian Leftists" because as surprising as it may be to many people around the world you can be for fair treatment of Palestinians and Israelis at the same time. The implication the label makes is that if somebody is "pro" this then you are indifferent or, at worse, "anti" the other.

There are other factors that go into a definition of genocide. Framing things as only being defined on one of the aspects of conflict and death is inappropriate for analysis of whether the definition of genocide applies. While some may be using this to support their refusal to support Harris/Walz they may or may not be doing so based upon a complete examination of all the criteria. Anybody applying the label or decrying the label based on an incomplete examination that fails to apply all of the criteria is wrong regardless of who they support or why. I think that people are immensely ignorant if they think that any normal VP situation could have affected the actions in Gaza in any major way one way or the other. The only VP to have that kind of power was Cheney who everyone knows was the real power in control.

I think people need to support the Harris/Walz ticket if they care about Gaza because the alternative administration will give free reign for slaughter/displacement far beyond what has taken place so far. Regardless of whether it carries this or that label.

EDIT: I inadvertently said ICJ when I meant ICC. ICJ is for disputes between countries. ICC is for crimes of individuals.