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Pacifist Patriot

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Sat Oct 19, 2024, 07:36 AM Oct 19

So my husband and I decided on a whim to "join" a Trump sign waving party in a ruby red county. [View all]

Central Florida
Friday, October 18
6:00 - 6:30 p.m.

For context, there is a highly traveled intersection near me with a CVS on one corner that provides ideal out-parcel space to conduct a sign waving event. MAGAts have used it over the last eight years, even when there isn't an election going on! I hadn't seen the Trump nutters out there for awhile, but they started showing up again routinely on Friday evenings the last few weeks. Demonstrably smaller crowds of late, but as enthusiastic. Every Friday around 4:00, my husband and I go visit my parents for a bit and have to pass this way to return home.

Unbeknownst to my long-suffering husband, I wore my Kam47a t-shirt for this very reason and tucked a Harris/Walz sign in the trunk of the car. As we approached the intersection I saw they were out yet again and asked if he minded dropping me off for half an hour so I could stand respectfully off to one end and hold up the Harris/Walz sign. He shocked me by not only agreeing, but staying with me holding up a "Florida is in Play" sign we happened to have in the trunk from an event we attended about six weeks ago. Folks, I cannot tell you how jaw dropping this was for me. He has 100% supported my political activity over the years, but never actively participated.

We had so much fun!

For one thing, we estimate that about 50% of the cars driving by reacted in our favor. Some of the folks driving by seemed ecstatic when they saw us. We noted a few things. Positive reactions heavily skewed younger, female (usually with a kid or two in the car), and/or people of color. But plenty of elderly couples expressed support too. The most obnoxious nay sayers were overwhelmingly elderly women. Or maybe that was their arthritis rendering them unable to bend their middle finger. Who knows, I digress.

We did keep our distance positioned after their final "Trump/Vance" yard sign, but sure enough several of their folks wandered down. We "interacted" with four of them. Here's how it went.

Two middle-aged men approached us. One was the nutter type who displayed obsession with immigrants and gender issues. We largely ignored him. Even when he snidely said something that indicated he knew who was on top when we had sex. Clearly his incel status makes him unable to imagine there are way more positions if you know what you're doing. Anyway, I digress again.

The other guy ended up engaging with me in a somewhat rational conversation. When ranting guy finally wandered off, I said, "Hey you mentioned you have daughters. How do you feel about their reproductive rights being taken away?" He said something about exceptions for rape and incest. I responded, "Oh no. In many states that is most definitely not the case. Take a look at what is happening in Texas. Women are dying" He asked me what my position was on post-birth abortion. I calmly responded. "That is infanticide, is illegal in every jurisdiction in the country, and no democrat on the planet would support making that legal." I asked if he knew that at six weeks, over 95% of women don't even know they are pregnant yet so we could be sentencing women with high risk pregnancies to death." His face turned white and he changed the subject to the media failing us. I said I absolutely agreed and left it at that. I thanked him for being an American who loves their country just like I do and for respecting my right to advocate for my candidate. He put out his hand and said, "I'm going to look up what you said about abortion." (in a way that indicated he was fact-checking me, but not snidely) I responded, "please do" and shook it.

Another guy came over who looked like he had been sent our way by ranting guy. Ended up having a conversation with him that was 100% devoid of any politics. You would have thought we were at a cocktail party, that kind of small talk. He was new to the area, recently retired from the Air Force, so my husband and I immediately engaged him with "where were you before, what drew you to the area, determined our kids had gone to the high school his kids were in now, etc." We told him it was a great area to raise kids, wished him well, he shook our hands, and quietly went back to his crowd.

We then had to ignore an unhinged anti-choice bitch who came over clutching a Vote No on 4 sign who shouted at us, called us losers, and made assumptions that we must have no children. We have three. We both knew better than to engage with her. That unspoken communication loser husbands and wives have after 30 years, you know.

After half an hour, the traffic was dying down, the wind was picking up, we were getting hungry, and frankly, my arms were tired from holding up a sign and waving at motorists. So these two fifty-something Enemies Within headed back to our car. Which by the way, is not a beaten up old pickup truck festooned with Harris is The Second Coming stickers and Walz has Ballz flags. As we were leaving, rational guy came over one more time, and said, "for democracy" and gave us each a fist bump. What the fuck is he doing with the nutters?

I don't know if he'll actually do the research much less learn anything important in the process, but I learned/confirmed a few important things last night:

1. Publicly advocating for democrats will not get you killed around here, despite my neighbors and family's concerns.
2. There were way more motorists excited to see us and expressing support than I anticipated.
3. Some Trump supporters are indeed so brainwashed and/or mentally ill that you really should not engage with them. Ever.
4. There are some folks in that bubble who might be able to be rescued. Even if you don't know the outcome, it is worth the effort. At the very least, I hope the two we engaged with now see that we are normal people and not an enemy.

Thanks for making it this far. I know I was long-winded.

Eighteen days!!!

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Love standing on corners with signs. You can cachukis Oct 19 #1
Great OP malaise Oct 19 #2
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 19 #3
Good for you dwayneb Oct 19 #4
With some bdamomma Oct 19 #38
The Trump Buybull with the US Constitution OMGWTF Oct 19 #46
We are going ramedy Oct 19 #5
A small observation sdfernando Oct 19 #20
Orlando is definitely blue. It will be blue in 2024 for sure. jimfields33 Oct 19 #31
Orlando for sure sdfernando Oct 19 #41
Thank you so much. Janeyre Oct 19 #6
Welcome to DU! Delphinus Oct 19 #19
Had a similar experience with Deminpenn Oct 19 #7
Excellent Aviation Pro Oct 19 #8
Florida mail in snowybirdie Oct 19 #28
Oh my gosh, PP, I love badhair77 Oct 19 #9
"Walz has Ballz flags" markodochartaigh Oct 19 #10
Absolutely loved this post. Thank you so much. Reaffirms my belief we're gonna win this. Joinfortmill Oct 19 #11
I love it that you engaged with people by saying... Trueblue Texan Oct 19 #12
Great post. Thanks for taking the time to investigate and report your findings. C0RI0LANUS Oct 19 #13
Loved your post...read it first thing this morning and I think Florida just may be more Blue than not 💙 Deuxcents Oct 19 #14
This is so uplifting! yardwork Oct 19 #15
What a great couple you are to go out and advocate for democracy! Thank you. Lonestarblue Oct 19 #16
Really good report, not long-winded but great details. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 19 #17
Excellent post! MacKasey Oct 19 #18
Lol @the incel guy! ecstatic Oct 19 #21
The incel guy's boss at work is to blame Captain Zero Oct 19 #53
Great post, and you and your husband were very brave! DeeDeeNY Oct 19 #22
Thank you for sharing! nt Phoenix61 Oct 19 #23
Thank you for starting my morning in such a positive, loving way. Thank niyad Oct 19 #24
That is awesome 👏🏼 benfranklin1776 Oct 19 #25
I didn't include this but when incel asked if we wanted tampons in boys rooms,... Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #73
That is a spectacular answer! benfranklin1776 Oct 19 #79
It's not so much mental agility as screaming it inside my head for months. Pacifist Patriot Oct 20 #82
This post is a great find Mira Oct 19 #26
Speaking of photos. I noticed more than a few people taking photos of us with their phones... Pacifist Patriot Oct 20 #85
Agreed Mira. This post is a gem. nt Maru Kitteh Oct 20 #88
Well done. (nt) Paladin Oct 19 #27
This is so awesome!! Kamala & Tim W aren'trunning scared, they're running joyful onetexan Oct 19 #29
Kudos to you and your husband. Enjoyed your well-written adventure. n/t allegorical oracle Oct 19 #30
Thank you for that post! It's great to hear. CaptainTruth Oct 19 #32
There's always some unhinged Karen nut Dem4life1234 Oct 19 #33
No it will not and Kudos to you all! As one who has to engage with these "nutters" on a daily basis I can't agree more Cheezoholic Oct 19 #34
Wonderful post bdamomma Oct 19 #35
This is a wonderful, thoughtful post! I do not think it was too long at all, but then...it's me... PatrickforB Oct 19 #36
Thank you for your post bdamomma Oct 19 #40
Thanks! I'm not familiar with David Hawkins. Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #72
That was lovely. Collimator Oct 19 #37
Beautiful! Stunning!! Magnificent!!! calimary Oct 20 #87
Good for you two! Fantastic! Bumbles Oct 19 #39
What a great post! Thank You lucca18 Oct 19 #42
What stands out most to me in your post PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 19 #43
Thats great Figarosmom Oct 19 #44
We need more La Coliniere Oct 19 #45
Awesome post! KnR. n/t iluvtennis Oct 19 #47
Kicking and recommending for all you did! Thank you both! dchill Oct 19 #48
Well Done! n/t rambler_american Oct 19 #49
That was brave. Thank you! nolabear Oct 19 #50
Thank you for sharing your experience. liberalmuse Oct 19 #51
I am an elderly woman that probably would have joined you. appleannie1 Oct 19 #52
You guys are amazing! pandr32 Oct 19 #54
Bravo! Thank you for fighting the good fight! camartinwv Oct 19 #55
great post! thank you. nt orleans Oct 19 #56
Thank you for this report KT2000 Oct 19 #57
You gave me an idea! world wide wally Oct 19 #58
Do it! Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #59
Orange Ave at Michigan Ave? rubbersole Oct 19 #60
Brevard county Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #61
What a great story! ShazzieB Oct 19 #62
Wowser, what a wonderful story! Thanks so much for sharing! Abolishinist Oct 19 #63
I'm a former UU minister who now works at a ... Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #64
Thank you for telling your true lived experience! mahina Oct 19 #65
Great work, you guys! I think sign waving for Harris/Walz and dems down ticket candidates Timeflyer Oct 19 #66
Somebody said this somewhere "I was driving past a lot of people but, one guy really told the story.. chouchou Oct 19 #67
Thank you for ypur bravery Demovictory9 Oct 19 #68
Refreshing story. Thanks for sharing. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 19 #69
Glad you weren't attacked. sellitman Oct 19 #70
WOW-- Thank you for gettng out there and for this story FightFight Oct 19 #71
If you see a Trump/Vance sign, even your neighbor's usonian Oct 19 #74
You rock! mcar Oct 19 #75
Brevard Pacifist Patriot Oct 20 #80
Same here mcar Oct 20 #84
Thanks for a very informative post. virgdem Oct 19 #76
Good job! Bring your smart phone and do the erase arch on the spot. mjvpi Oct 19 #77
Good idea! Pacifist Patriot Oct 20 #81
Every word worth reading. I love reading posts from intelligent people - people who care about America and the rest of dai13sy Oct 19 #78
For the record, I dont care WHO'S "on top". Thats served me well! oldsoftie Oct 20 #83
Thanks for sharing! Florida may indeed be in play! Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Oct 20 #86
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