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In reply to the discussion: Key Atlantic current could collapse soon, 'impacting the entire world for centuries to come,' [View all]Coexist
(26,202 posts)9. Is it finally time for the carbon eaters?
https://www.wired.com/story/is-it-time-for-an-emergency-rollout-of-carbon-eating-machines/
In a recent paper in the journal Nature Communications, a team of researchers crunched the numbers, arguing that its feasible for humanity to embark on a wartime-style crash deployment of a global network of machines that sequester carbon. We think there's sort of a dearth of conversation generally, but also in the academic literature, around emergency responses to the climate crisis, says Ryan Hanna, an energy systems researcher at the UC San Diego and lead author on the paper.
Typically, climate scientists run big, complicated models about the most economically optimal ways to decarbonize. That envisions this very technocratic, manicured, highly granular transition, Hanna says, which doesn't really reflect the way transitions actually occur in reality. So Hanna and his colleagues sketched out an alternate vision: Imagine what would happen if humanity invested in DAC like wed invest in another world war.
The researchers broke their modeling into three parts. The first was an estimate of how much governments would need to pay for DAC plants. This would include appropriating crisis-level funding to pay private firms to build the facilities, and to pay the companies for storing the carbon theyd be capturing. The second piece of the modeling looked at how fast the plant rollout could scale using already-existing energy supplies like hydropower. (You wouldnt want to use fossil fuels to run them, obviously.) And the last part was a climate model, representing the entire Earth system, including oceans and the atmosphere. This showed how global temperatures would change if a mass deployment of DAC facilities turned down the amount of CO2 hanging around in the atmosphere.
The researchers found that with an annual investment of between 1 and 2 percent of the global gross domestic product, humanity could scale up a DAC network to remove around 2.3 gigatons of CO2 annually by the year 2050. (For perspective, total global emissions are currently around 40 gigatons a year.)
Thats about 400 times the amount of CO2 humanity currently sequesters, so were talking about a massive scale-up. Still, relative to what the integrated assessment models tell us we should do by 2050, it's actually quite small, says Hanna. We need to remove something like 5 to 9 gigatons of CO2 per year by 2050 to meet the Paris agreements 1.5 degrees C goal. What that tells us is that we need more than just a single means of negative emissions, Hanna adds. For instance, we could also bolster wetlands and plant trees to naturally sequester carbon.
The DAC facilities themselves will need to scale as quickly as possible. To be able to remove a mere 2 to 2.5 gigatons of carbon a year by 2050a fraction of the amount that will help get us to the Paris goalswed need around 800. But to truly make a dent in the skyrocketing CO2 levels, wed need to build them much faster. Were talking 4,000 to 9,000 plants by the year 2075, and beyond 10,000 by the end of the century, at which point we could theoretically be sequestering up to 27 gigatons of carbon a year. It shows, in effect, that you have a really long, slow, gradual scale-up as the industry grows through 2050, says Hanna. Then once it sort of grows to a massive size, then it's really easy to add a lot of plants quickly, because you have this huge industrial base for the industry.
In a recent paper in the journal Nature Communications, a team of researchers crunched the numbers, arguing that its feasible for humanity to embark on a wartime-style crash deployment of a global network of machines that sequester carbon. We think there's sort of a dearth of conversation generally, but also in the academic literature, around emergency responses to the climate crisis, says Ryan Hanna, an energy systems researcher at the UC San Diego and lead author on the paper.
Typically, climate scientists run big, complicated models about the most economically optimal ways to decarbonize. That envisions this very technocratic, manicured, highly granular transition, Hanna says, which doesn't really reflect the way transitions actually occur in reality. So Hanna and his colleagues sketched out an alternate vision: Imagine what would happen if humanity invested in DAC like wed invest in another world war.
The researchers broke their modeling into three parts. The first was an estimate of how much governments would need to pay for DAC plants. This would include appropriating crisis-level funding to pay private firms to build the facilities, and to pay the companies for storing the carbon theyd be capturing. The second piece of the modeling looked at how fast the plant rollout could scale using already-existing energy supplies like hydropower. (You wouldnt want to use fossil fuels to run them, obviously.) And the last part was a climate model, representing the entire Earth system, including oceans and the atmosphere. This showed how global temperatures would change if a mass deployment of DAC facilities turned down the amount of CO2 hanging around in the atmosphere.
The researchers found that with an annual investment of between 1 and 2 percent of the global gross domestic product, humanity could scale up a DAC network to remove around 2.3 gigatons of CO2 annually by the year 2050. (For perspective, total global emissions are currently around 40 gigatons a year.)
Thats about 400 times the amount of CO2 humanity currently sequesters, so were talking about a massive scale-up. Still, relative to what the integrated assessment models tell us we should do by 2050, it's actually quite small, says Hanna. We need to remove something like 5 to 9 gigatons of CO2 per year by 2050 to meet the Paris agreements 1.5 degrees C goal. What that tells us is that we need more than just a single means of negative emissions, Hanna adds. For instance, we could also bolster wetlands and plant trees to naturally sequester carbon.
The DAC facilities themselves will need to scale as quickly as possible. To be able to remove a mere 2 to 2.5 gigatons of carbon a year by 2050a fraction of the amount that will help get us to the Paris goalswed need around 800. But to truly make a dent in the skyrocketing CO2 levels, wed need to build them much faster. Were talking 4,000 to 9,000 plants by the year 2075, and beyond 10,000 by the end of the century, at which point we could theoretically be sequestering up to 27 gigatons of carbon a year. It shows, in effect, that you have a really long, slow, gradual scale-up as the industry grows through 2050, says Hanna. Then once it sort of grows to a massive size, then it's really easy to add a lot of plants quickly, because you have this huge industrial base for the industry.
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Key Atlantic current could collapse soon, 'impacting the entire world for centuries to come,' [View all]
Bayard
Oct 23
OP
And despite this information the MAGA and GOP assholes keep merrily dancing around saying
hadEnuf
Oct 23
#19
I'm worried about all of the methane gas that will be released when the Arctic permafrost melts.
OMGWTF
Oct 23
#20
Do not need to worry about the planet. The planet as you mention will take care of itself.
LiberalArkie
Oct 24
#35
Sadly this will not get the attention it deserves. The world will suffer.
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Oct 23
#10