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In reply to the discussion: Should the Electoral College be abolished? [View all]usonian
(14,863 posts)36. How the Electoral College Was Nearly Abolished in 1970. (published in 2020)
https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-nearly-abolished-thurmond
The House approved a constitutional amendment to dismantle the indirect voting system, but it was killed in the Senate by a filibuster.
(Of course, constitutional amendments have to be approved by 3/4 of states ... Who remembers prohibition? )
Filibuster .... "We don't make good laws and constitutional amendments, but we sure can stop them"
Quote attributable to me.
The House approved a constitutional amendment to dismantle the indirect voting system, but it was killed in the Senate by a filibuster.
(Of course, constitutional amendments have to be approved by 3/4 of states ... Who remembers prohibition? )
On September 18, 1969, the U.S. House of Representatives voted by an overwhelming 338 to 70 to send a constitutional amendment to the Senate that would have dismantled the Electoral College, the indirect system by which Americans elect the president and vice president.
It was the only time in American history that a chamber of Congress actually approved an amendment to abolish the Electoral College, says Jesse Wegman, a member of the New York Times editorial board and author of Let the People Pick the President: The Case for Abolishing the Electoral College.
The House vote, which came in the wake of an extraordinarily close presidential election, mirrored national sentiment about scrapping an electoral system that allowed a candidate to win the presidency even while losing the popular vote. A 1968 Gallup poll found that 80 percent of Americans believed it was time to elect the nations highest office by direct popular vote.
Yet just a year later, the Senate bill that would have ended the Electoral College was dead in the water, filibustered by a cadre of Southern lawmakers intent on preserving the majoritys grip on electoral power in their states. Despite widespread bipartisan support for the amendment in both large and small states, the Senate came five votes shy of breaking the filibuster.
It was the only time in American history that a chamber of Congress actually approved an amendment to abolish the Electoral College, says Jesse Wegman, a member of the New York Times editorial board and author of Let the People Pick the President: The Case for Abolishing the Electoral College.
The House vote, which came in the wake of an extraordinarily close presidential election, mirrored national sentiment about scrapping an electoral system that allowed a candidate to win the presidency even while losing the popular vote. A 1968 Gallup poll found that 80 percent of Americans believed it was time to elect the nations highest office by direct popular vote.
Yet just a year later, the Senate bill that would have ended the Electoral College was dead in the water, filibustered by a cadre of Southern lawmakers intent on preserving the majoritys grip on electoral power in their states. Despite widespread bipartisan support for the amendment in both large and small states, the Senate came five votes shy of breaking the filibuster.
Filibuster .... "We don't make good laws and constitutional amendments, but we sure can stop them"
Quote attributable to me.
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And they can start by eliminating the 1929 Permanent Apportionment Act
Charging Triceratops
Oct 28
#34
It's not true that "smaller states" wouldn't have their voices heard. Land doesn't vote. Their voters still vote.
themaguffin
Oct 28
#4
It's strange we went through the whole 20th century without the electoral college and the popular vote not matching
Walleye
Oct 28
#6
Yes. Those in smaller states do get their voices heard via their vote, just like everyone else
In It to Win It
Oct 28
#12
We have tons of info on candidates without them having to campaign anywhere
travelingthrulife
Oct 28
#22
That's why something like that would have to be imposed through federal legislation.
cloudbase
Oct 28
#83
I lived in NE for over 20 years and wondered why all states didn't award their EC
RubyRose
Oct 28
#85
Abolishing the Electoral College will take decades, but the Maine/Nebraska model is not bad
WSHazel
Oct 28
#33
In 1970, it would have been mostly a distinction without a difference, the threshold for cloture was 67
tritsofme
Oct 28
#71
As a Californian my voice is never heard. The Electoral College needs to go.
Beaverhausen
Oct 28
#40
Virtually impossible to abolish. The popular vote compact would fix it though.
bullimiami
Oct 28
#55
Yes. But a Constitutional convention to change it -- in this era -- might leave us worse off than we are.
Silent Type
Oct 28
#59