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Sympthsical

(10,440 posts)
5. What's to explain?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:07 AM
Nov 2024

People didn't show up. It was always going to be an enthusiasm election, and people weren't sufficiently enthused.

2020 was an odd year due to the pandemic, so we can't really use it as a base line for expectation of what elections look like. This year was just a regular old election.

We needed turn out to win, and for a myriad of reasons, many Democrats and independents decided "Nah." Trump didn't significantly improve his numbers. Ours were just rotten.

We have a choice now. Do we acknowledge that maybe there's a problem in our perceptions and thinking about the electorate and how people in this country think and feel, or do we blame everyone else and double down on doing what just failed spectacularly?

I see a lot of doubling down, which I'm hoping is just an immediate aftermath reaction.

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Doesn't seem to make sense. Long lines everywhere. mobeau69 Nov 2024 #1
Many who filled out mail in ballots in 2020 didn't jimfields33 Nov 2024 #6
This is exactly it and why Republicans are so bent on making voting hard Trekologer Nov 2024 #42
Elon and Putin hacked the tabulators Meadowoak Nov 2024 #20
That would take a massive job. Each precinct is only hooked up to their own internet. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #43
Apparently the long lines were due to voter suppression... ananda Nov 2024 #52
It's the numbers, not the lines. LeftInTX Nov 2024 #62
Some of it is voter suppression. yardwork Nov 2024 #2
Illinois is living rent free in my head Sympthsical Nov 2024 #14
It may not be accurate to assign a coherent reason for this. yardwork Nov 2024 #17
I'm going to disagree somewhat Sympthsical Nov 2024 #23
I'm going to sit with this a while. yardwork Nov 2024 #30
Spot on! Omnipresent Nov 2024 #37
This exactly! City Lights Nov 2024 #63
according to pundits on msnbc, based on the demographics of this election, the Republican Party is now more the party of Native Nov 2024 #26
And given the electoral college Sympthsical Nov 2024 #28
Exactly right. And we have to recognize the diversity of Latinos and Black Americans. Native Nov 2024 #31
And we have to do a better job of fighting disinformation on social media Native Nov 2024 #33
The Republican Party is now the party of the wealthy and the poor. yardwork Nov 2024 #29
If Illinois is depressing you stay away from The Queens, Bronx and New Jersey numbers. Jk23 Nov 2024 #70
Isn't the governor a democratic politician? I doubt he'd sign off on such rules. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #44
The NC state legislature has been controlled by Republicans since 2011. yardwork Nov 2024 #47
Don't forget the bomb threats and poll worker abuse. ananda Nov 2024 #53
Voter suppression and bullshit shenanigans Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #3
somethings very fishy about the vote count, It doesn't match up. long lines everywhere for 3 weeks, breaking turnout Meadowoak Nov 2024 #22
Just what I have been thinking, but who will investigate? rurallib Nov 2024 #40
if there is an investigation, it has to be done before trump is inaugurated. Meadowoak Nov 2024 #41
Republicans turned out, long lines doesn't mean voting for dems this election FloridaBlues Nov 2024 #60
In PA, the vote was a bit higher in 2024 than in 2020. John1956PA Nov 2024 #4
What's to explain? Sympthsical Nov 2024 #5
"This year was just a regular old election." True Dough Nov 2024 #11
Shoulda woulda coulda Sympthsical Nov 2024 #15
Well, now we all pay the price True Dough Nov 2024 #16
I agree with you. MontanaFarmer Nov 2024 #19
It's like people are managing democracy a la carte Sympthsical Nov 2024 #27
Apathy... kirby Nov 2024 #7
That stat blows my mind. underpants Nov 2024 #9
Pretty simple, a lot of conservative zoomers came of age in those rural counties. joshcryer Nov 2024 #49
Yeah I guess so. underpants Nov 2024 #55
I think many of those 2020 voters might not be into politics much JI7 Nov 2024 #8
How do you know that deficit came from Democrats? The obvious decreases I saw via the exit polls were in the following JohnSJ Nov 2024 #10
Can you imagine if they get rid of the filibuster and add 4 seats to the Supreme Court and then turn around jimfields33 Nov 2024 #45
You bring up an excellent point. They already got rid of the filibuster for confirming SC judges. It makes one pause JohnSJ Nov 2024 #48
Decisions are often made emotionally typically with frustration. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #57
I wonder how many of them showed up at rallies. duncang Nov 2024 #12
BINGO!!!!!!! You literally won the true statement of the day! jimfields33 Nov 2024 #46
They did. ColinC Nov 2024 #13
Yea, but Trump improved by 19% among Hispanic Men, and 8% among Hispanic Women... SKKY Nov 2024 #18
During the Pandemic everyone got a mail in ballot automatically Cattledog Nov 2024 #21
... Crepuscular Nov 2024 #36
It seems there were 2 topics that Trump glommed onto that stuck: immigration and the economy. Vinca Nov 2024 #24
I would also add gender issues pimpbot Nov 2024 #34
When I first saw the ad during a break in a oasis Nov 2024 #56
Good point. I wish Democrats had pointed out that what Kamala was talking about in that clip Vinca Nov 2024 #61
Less than 15% of the population has any college debt. MichMan Nov 2024 #65
And those 15% would have a much easier time if AllyCat Nov 2024 #68
Where the hell were the "swifties" durablend Nov 2024 #25
You have to be 18 to vote pimpbot Nov 2024 #32
Young women DID vote for Harris overwhelmingly, probably. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #58
I actually think he'll bottom out and she may creep up over him bigtree Nov 2024 #35
Biden won campaigning on a very progressive worker friendly platform. Build Back Better Nanjeanne Nov 2024 #38
Troublesome at the end of the campaign... quaint Nov 2024 #39
Better to say Russian interference and voter suppression. ananda Nov 2024 #50
Voter suppression, purging, Faux pas Nov 2024 #51
Zero evidence for machine flipping. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #59
I was just spit balling Faux pas Nov 2024 #64
Exactly!! lamp_shade Nov 2024 #54
2020 was an asterisk election due to COVID. WarGamer Nov 2024 #66
Suppression through social media microtargeting JCMach1 Nov 2024 #67
I'm sorry, but this is like Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #69
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