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LastLiberal in PalmSprings

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89. Portugal has been at the top of our list, too.

Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:31 AM

Nov 7

I haven't done the necessary research yet, and I would like to take a recon trip before we move.

A new factor to be considered is that last month I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. I need to see what's available in Portugal to manage it.

If we stay here we'll join the loyal opposition. This website's name has become prophetic. Democracy is going to have to go underground to survive.

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'Yes, that's what we want.' That's who we are." Ferrets are Cool Nov 6 #1

For a lot of Americans that IS the American dream. progressoid Nov 6 #61

My analogy ... OldBoss Nov 6 #62

Hell of a thing ain't it exboyfil Nov 6 #2

How many more women will die? RussBLib Nov 6 #3

Charlie, the hate for Dems & Libs and their desire to see us punished is all they care about. And you talking heads were Hotler Nov 6 #4

Corporate media bdamomma Nov 7 #84

Just imagine how "free and secure" the 2026 Midterm and 2028 elections will be with fascists owning all 3 branches maxrandb Nov 6 #5

And IF we vote Wicked Blue Nov 6 #12

AMERICA, THE NAZI COUNTRY, HAS SPOKEN. lark Nov 6 #6

Same 100% cilla4progress Nov 6 #22

Portugal was very welcoming, according to some literature I read and my cousin. lark Nov 6 #24

What about medical? cilla4progress Nov 6 #29

Seems like it was quite inexpensive, but it's been a 5 years since I did the research. lark Nov 6 #41

My previous next door neighbor moved there last year. GoodRaisin Nov 6 #45

Very nice to hear. lark Nov 6 #57

I know he started teaching himself the language a few months before going over. GoodRaisin Nov 6 #63

That is so cool! lark Nov 6 #75

Portugal has been at the top of our list, too. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 7 #89

Hate mattered. Wounded pride mattered. Maintaining their delusions mattered. Solly Mack Nov 6 #7

I've always said that our entire collective psyche is basically fascist. ananda Nov 6 #25

Indigenous wisdom cilla4progress Nov 6 #30

Totally agree. ananda Nov 6 #37

I'm going to have to think on that. Though I do think that we are all part of the same whole. Solly Mack Nov 6 #38

I think our universe is basically holistic, yes. ananda Nov 6 #47

Fascism is literally built into our infrastructure. Yavin4 Nov 6 #44

And fascism is about putting people into ideological boxes... ananda Nov 6 #73

Thanks for this - good information and perspective. Pinback Nov 6 #72

"White supremacy mattered. Male privilege mattered. Maintaining status as a white male privilege cling-on mattered." jaxexpat Nov 6 #27

I don't think white supremacy ever went away. Nor misogyny or status by association. Solly Mack Nov 6 #35

Constant propaganda that amplifies those characteristics mattered and continues to matter. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 6 #32

It is the rally cry. Solly Mack Nov 6 #36

What is so horrifying is that voters knew Trump as a corrupt charlatan and voted for him anyway. Lonestarblue Nov 6 #8

They embody lawlessness durablend Nov 6 #20

Sorry, Charlie. czarjak Nov 6 #9

The only things that won last night are misogyny and racism Native Nov 6 #10

You forgot stupidity bedazzled Nov 6 #11

We underestimated how much inflation was a drag on democrats Demovictory9 Nov 6 #26

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Inflation was a contrived issue to create the downfall of Biden and the downfall of the libs. magicarpet Nov 6 #56

This. Different Drummer Nov 6 #49

Exactly Deep State Witch Nov 6 #13

--- AND don't forget, the new Justice Cannon. 3Hotdogs Nov 6 #14

Definitely on the table. God help us all! Different Drummer Nov 6 #52

Oh man... calimary Nov 7 #82

Oh yes bdamomma Nov 7 #85

It is not the "American people" CommonHumanity Nov 6 #15

I think it is the best/truest target. America showed its character yesterday. Dropped its mask. notroot Nov 6 #18

not teaching civics in school kiri Nov 6 #34

Ultimately, it is their responsibility for their votes. valleyrogue Nov 6 #48

Who do you think voted? We take in all the same info TBF Nov 6 #74

We do not all take in the same info genxlib Nov 7 #87

I think I need to reconsider this point. TBF Nov 7 #90

That bdamomma Nov 7 #86

It's hard to fathom that for vast segments of our society facts, reason, and substance don't matter. We're plagued by Cognitive_Resonance Nov 6 #16

"Society" doesn't matter to them durablend Nov 6 #21

This is overlooked kerouac2 Nov 6 #79

Here's the full Sykes piece thesquanderer Nov 6 #17

Thank you. Much appreciated. Dem2theMax Nov 6 #77

My sixteen year old RANDYWILDMAN Nov 6 #19

Born in violence, theft, racism, genocide, cilla4progress Nov 6 #23

Seems like the only thing that's mattered the last several years KS Toronado Nov 6 #28

The economic royalists won this election the_liberal_grandpa Nov 6 #31

I disagree. 2naSalit Nov 6 #33

I love this 2na cilla4progress Nov 6 #39

All I can think of... 2naSalit Nov 6 #43

Yeah. cilla4progress Nov 6 #50

same... 2naSalit Nov 6 #51

I wonder myself, it seems a bit too much of a sweep. Ligyron Nov 6 #58

Hell YES❗❗ Duppers Nov 6 #80

The electorate fell for hate and fear and will let him do anything Evolve Dammit Nov 6 #40

They'll change their minds... lame54 Nov 6 #42

When and if they change their minds... Different Drummer Nov 6 #54

Ignorance and stupidity win out as segments of our country are mesmerized by mis/disinformation andym Nov 6 #53

"That's what we want. That's who we are." Ocelot II Nov 6 #55

Im still not buying a gun. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 6 #59

The one issue, the economy, if that is what voters were hoping for with him remains Passages Nov 6 #60

There were a lot of people who purposely chose not to be informed or tuned out the truth. waterwatcher123 Nov 6 #64

From listening to MSMBC now it seems those college kids and young people were voting for T. Hope22 Nov 6 #65

How do you combat that. kacekwl Nov 6 #66

Misogyny and racism wolfie001 Nov 6 #71

A line from Shakespeare's "Hamlet" stillspkg Nov 6 #67

why would it matter to them? they figured if he did something wrong, he'd be in jail, and he wasn't. ecstatic Nov 6 #68

That's the worst part for me Roc2020 Nov 6 #69

Live in e red, red rural VA county AverageOldGuy Nov 6 #70

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kick Maru Kitteh Nov 6 #78

Nothing matters but the price of Doritos... and eggs, etc Jack Valentino Nov 6 #81

Oh fuck bdamomma Nov 7 #83

Well, I think it was more, "Regardless, he will make me rich and get rid of those people I hate." OldBaldy1701E Nov 7 #88