I can't think of any better messaging for the party than we just experienced in the Harris campaign

[Tom Rinaldo]

18. Again. this is what i initially posted in reply to your thread:

"Her messaging was great. But 100 days of great messaging doesn't...
...undo a decades long brand problem."

You chose to focus on what was said during this campaign instead of what i actually raised. I generally agree with you about the last few months,, as I stated. I was commenting on trends that go back far longer, and those trend are problematic even though minority working class voters continue to back Democrats by large margins.

It has been a given for most of the last 50 years that Democrats seldom win a majority of white voters, not even white women. And our winning majorities, with strong support from minorities, are not large enough for us to afford continued leakage of minority support where class issues intersect.

I could say that "you don't have a clear view of what actually occurred" like you said to me, but i don't find comments like that useful to a discussion. I've gone as far down this rabbit hole as I have time for right now.