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In reply to the discussion: Add my "what went wrong" take to the pile [View all]BumRushDaShow
(145,124 posts)43. "people's opinions were already baked in"
That sums it up.
I would add that over 15 years ago, infamous funders of the GOP - the Koch brothers - made a decision to get involved in "local politics" - literally down to the "school board level", using their "Americans for Prosperity" to fund their agenda.
How the Koch Brothers Backed Public-School Segregation
Politics
August 15, 2011
Andy Kroll
(snip)
The story starts back in 2009, when elections were held for four of Wake Countys nine school board seatsenough seats to dictate the public school districts agenda if all four board members wanted the same reforms. Thats where Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political advocacy group, came into play. AFP funded a local grassroots group, WakeCARES, that organized on behalf of four candidates who sought to kill the districts policy of busing to ensure diverse, desegregated public schools.* The four candidates ran against what they called forced businga phrase, the film points out, that dates back to George Wallace in the 1970sand instead stressed that schools should educate only those who lived in the surrounding neighborhood.
Local reporters, some of whom are interviewed in the film, connected the push to eliminate busing with the philosophies of AFP and its funders. Theyre definitely pushing an agenda to resegregate these schools, but theres also a real push toward privatization, Sue Sturgis of the Institute for Southern Studies says in the film.
In the end, with the help of AFP-backed WakeCARES, all four anti-busing candidates won, and the school board has since taken steps toward rolling back its existing busing policies despite a wave of protest and outrage in the local community.
(snip)
Politics
August 15, 2011
Andy Kroll
(snip)
The story starts back in 2009, when elections were held for four of Wake Countys nine school board seatsenough seats to dictate the public school districts agenda if all four board members wanted the same reforms. Thats where Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political advocacy group, came into play. AFP funded a local grassroots group, WakeCARES, that organized on behalf of four candidates who sought to kill the districts policy of busing to ensure diverse, desegregated public schools.* The four candidates ran against what they called forced businga phrase, the film points out, that dates back to George Wallace in the 1970sand instead stressed that schools should educate only those who lived in the surrounding neighborhood.
Local reporters, some of whom are interviewed in the film, connected the push to eliminate busing with the philosophies of AFP and its funders. Theyre definitely pushing an agenda to resegregate these schools, but theres also a real push toward privatization, Sue Sturgis of the Institute for Southern Studies says in the film.
In the end, with the help of AFP-backed WakeCARES, all four anti-busing candidates won, and the school board has since taken steps toward rolling back its existing busing policies despite a wave of protest and outrage in the local community.
(snip)
That model "worked" and through those school boards (culminating in the more recent "Moms for (but really against) Liberty" engaging in censorship and a culture war, they were able to meddle and influence down at that lowest community level.
In some urban areas, like here in Philly, there is still the old vestiges of "patronage party politics", with a "boss" who would organize the local infrastructure. But in this day and age of the internet and social media (which has exploded with all the independent programming coming through "podcasts" ), that type of "patronage system" is outdated and unable to keep up.
This is definitely an opportunity to be ready for 2026.
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Rove was also author Redmap, the Republican Party plan to use gerrymandering for permanent control of government.
Lonestarblue
Nov 7
#64
I definitely agree that curated spaces and echo chambers have contributed to her loss.
orange jar
Nov 7
#6
& it's reached almost insurmountable proportions. According to canvassers, the misinformation this election was insane,
Native
Nov 7
#18
I don't know about that. A lot of people are saying it's pandered too much to the left/progressives of the party.
Native
Nov 7
#29
sure, i cant remember them all, but one for sure that was mentioned was the transgender surgeries for inmates.
Native
Nov 7
#93
She REALLY should have hit-back on the transgender "prison surgery" thing,
Jack Valentino
Nov 8
#134
When Biden made sure they got COVID relief funds, he should have put his name on it like Trump did.
summer_in_TX
Nov 8
#119
Those differences in voting by income are all small. It's not a big factor.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 8
#123
I think the income voting differences are mostly related to education (which trends to result in higher income),
deurbano
Nov 8
#145
The signs were there. Biden has been a great president. The economy is doing great. Yet most people don't agree.
Doodley
Nov 7
#8
I'm sure it did. It was an important part of their campaign. Our household of two received a dozen direct mail
Doodley
Nov 7
#15
If a supernatural being saved Trump from death, it was LUCIFER and not God.
Jack Valentino
Nov 8
#136
And yet, the Dems didn't continually publish the positive news, buy ads, etc. That's on us.
SharonAnn
Nov 7
#17
Good point. Trump maximized the racist, homophobic, transphobic, mysogynist vote. Kamala had to overcome that.
Doodley
Nov 7
#13
Along those same lines people expected prices to actually drop to pre-Covid levels
groundloop
Nov 7
#38
Finally, someone explaining how targeting works. We're an old group and very defensive to boot. Explanations like this
Native
Nov 7
#16
If no one's told you lately that you're a genius, EarlG, elbow them in the ribs (gently but definitely).
jaxexpat
Nov 7
#19
Earl, what about a small siloed section of DU where the rules are relaxed somewhat?
intrepidity
Nov 8
#160
We just got some stunning family news from some in-laws: almost the whole younger gen voted Trump
Hekate
Nov 7
#33
My Wife and I have been discussing this exactly as you have described for a couple of days now. I agree completely with
marked50
Nov 7
#46
The TOP (Trump's Oleaginous Party) can't help but fuck with Social Security and Obamacare.
LudwigPastorius
Nov 7
#49
I agree with your analysis. I still believe that racism and sexism played a role but so did social media
tulipsandroses
Nov 7
#54
For me, to break through the information bubble, it came down to critical thinking (education)
ffr
Nov 7
#59
I agree, EarlG. I've seen discussions of this on Twitter. From Asha Rangappa this morning:
highplainsdem
Nov 7
#85
Thought-provoking OP. I still think we've got a lot of folks who just won't vote for a woman,
TBF
Nov 7
#87
Read a great thread by a Brit about the analogies to Brexit on Twitter today.
summer_in_TX
Nov 8
#116
The incremental, stealth takeover by oligarchs is now open and in its final race to the finish line.
Hermit-The-Prog
Nov 8
#117
All incumbents across the world have lost vote share. The Biden to Harris loss was one of the smallest.
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 8
#124
"Algorithmic microtargeting". Yes. The microtargeting supports Inconsistent views and helps to dissuade real-life convos
lostnfound
Nov 8
#125
If buyer's remorse doesn't set in over the next 4 years for a significant number of people who voted for Trump,
Martin68
Nov 8
#139
People here keep thinking we'll have free and fair elections that will be winnable in 2026 and 2028.
Efilroft Sul
Nov 8
#140
We're in for scary times, and the old rules -- the old laws -- won't necessarily be applicable any more.
Efilroft Sul
Nov 8
#147
YES. We hit 1% with volunteers once in 6 months. They hit 90% twice a day -- at least.
Festivito
Nov 8
#148
Mis and disinformation coupled with lack of perspective is huge. But this was a change election.
andym
Nov 8
#150
A tech perspective. Great points. It seems like an application of the Facebook effect in 2016
underpants
Nov 8
#152
People almost always bleme the Executive branch for their troubles and complaints.
Ping Tung
Nov 8
#156
I just had a technician tell me Trump would stop the wars because he was strong
True Blue American
Nov 20
#165