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paulkienitz

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36. America is a beacon of liberty and democracy, and also a land of assholes.

Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:15 PM

Nov 2024

Our values defend human rights, but our culture embraces sociopathy. For an awful lot of us, the word liberty just means "I get to be an asshole."

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Gonna say something kind of ugly and no doubt controversial - [View all] cilla4progress Nov 2024 OP

All True montanacowboy Nov 2024 #1

Right here, Right now I agree that our government is a joke and a lie. Magoo48 Nov 2024 #56

I wholeheartedly agree.. richdj25 Nov 2024 #57

It's neither, but everyone deserves to vent. TheProle Nov 2024 #2

Thank you cilla4progress Nov 2024 #13

This whole thing hurts TheProle Nov 2024 #15

Add "and we have to start fixing it right away" and it works for me. MMBeilis Nov 2024 #3

Sorry, no Hekate Nov 2024 #4

There is nothing ugly and controversial about what you said. City Lights Nov 2024 #5

No lies told Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #6

It was sliding for a number of years due zorbasd Nov 2024 #55

And Trump is the "Coup de Gras" bikes and bunnies Nov 2024 #63

White folks are just figuring this out. 1WorldHope Nov 2024 #7

No, I know. cilla4progress Nov 2024 #14

I grew up gay a half century ago in markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #48

I see you. cilla4progress Nov 2024 #54

Great points misanthrope Nov 2024 #77

Growing up we didn't eat a lot of meat, markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #80

OH LET'S BE REAL Skittles Nov 2024 #72

I agree, but again, black, brown asian LGBTQ women have always had it double. 1WorldHope Nov 2024 #83

I would say more like TEN TIMES instead of double Skittles Nov 2024 #86

It that supposed to be news? TwilightZone Nov 2024 #8

Correction: The United States is a joke and a lie IzzaNuDay Nov 2024 #9

Not United nt SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #11

More like Untied States! nt IzzaNuDay Nov 2024 #70

Very appropriate. markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #82

TRUTH nt SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #10

FACT! BluenFLA Nov 2024 #12

Shades of 2016 republianmushroom Nov 2024 #16

That's an awfully sweeping statement soandso Nov 2024 #17

That's what I would like to know as well. cilla4progress Nov 2024 #20

Every place has it's pro and cons soandso Nov 2024 #24

Yes, I know. cilla4progress Nov 2024 #25

You do know about migration to other countries, right? dpibel Nov 2024 #37

Yes, I just posted about it soandso Nov 2024 #43

We were supposed to be the beacon of democracy, cilla4progress Nov 2024 #18

women and POC are treated like garbage Skittles Nov 2024 #88

We have always known that Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #19

It hurt me a lot to hear Kamala keep saying cilla4progress Nov 2024 #21

They have to say that Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #22

100% cilla4progress Nov 2024 #23

JFC don't use that term to describe people of DU LearnedHand Nov 2024 #31

Woke meaning the opposite of sleeping Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #34

Well, cilla4progress Nov 2024 #40

And blueknight73 Nov 2024 #26

It's certainly become that. Texin Nov 2024 #27

the American experiment is indeed dead Skittles Nov 2024 #28

If we ever get through this, it would be nice if we grew some humility. ariadne0614 Nov 2024 #29

That was proven to be true on 11/5/24, to our great dismay. n/t lark Nov 2024 #30

The mail thing is interesting. He did tell them to vote early, in person. TBF Nov 2024 #58

Not a minority. EarthAbides Nov 2024 #32

Ayn Rand Russia's best weapon. Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #35

A neon sign and glitter Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #33

America is a beacon of liberty and democracy, and also a land of assholes. paulkienitz Nov 2024 #36

You got that right. I say send All GOPigs to the moon. One way trip. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #38

And that's a big part of the problem mvd Nov 2024 #39

It appears I've been lied to by my parents, teachers, Boomerproud Nov 2024 #41

That would only be one of the many lies I was told in my formative years misanthrope Nov 2024 #79

I disagree oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #42

I agree with you. As an American myself, I believe the best of people. I consider myself to be intelligent but I was Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2024 #45

WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND. . . Jimvanhise Nov 2024 #44

agreed NJCher Nov 2024 #59

This isn't controversial to anyone with a brain Rizen Nov 2024 #46

And don't forget, dumb and racist Chicagogrl1 Nov 2024 #47

people love to hate Give Peace A Chance Nov 2024 #49

Shit hole country. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #50

I resist that idea. TomSlick Nov 2024 #53

And ya'll are movin' to where? Abolishinist Nov 2024 #76

America is neither a joke nor a lie. TomSlick Nov 2024 #51

that is the heart of matter NJCher Nov 2024 #60

I agree, with both of your posts. TomSlick Nov 2024 #73

The last thing crooks in this country wanted was a prosecutor as President bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #52

America is a brutal country oftentimes, but Politicub Nov 2024 #61

The whole "Shining City On A Hill".... wolfie001 Nov 2024 #62

A country can't elect Donald Trump and pretend to be a functional democracy. No joke. hay rick Nov 2024 #64

No argument from me. Polls showed 49% of Hassler Nov 2024 #65

Much of the "myth" has been known moniss Nov 2024 #66

The U.S. has always thought too highly of itself. Beacool Nov 2024 #67

Totally. And now going back to more lies. Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #68

Any argument I would have had with that statement died a painful death Tuesday night. Xavier Breath Nov 2024 #69

50% of Americans are garbage, either on purpose or ignorant catsudon Nov 2024 #71

And by ignorance... Duppers Nov 2024 #74

So profound. Abolishinist Nov 2024 #75

You are being an cilla4progress Nov 2024 #89

lil bill The Wandering Harper Nov 2024 #78

America: the land of broken promises and shattered dreams 0rganism Nov 2024 #81

Wow. That's good. I wish I had said that! 🙏🏼 1WorldHope Nov 2024 #84

Thanks! Feel free to use & recycle as needed 0rganism Nov 2024 #85

it has BECOME a joke and a lie Skittles Nov 2024 #87