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Scrivener7

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44. Sorry, no. I'm not taking responsibility for

Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:57 PM

Nov 7

adult people voting for trump because republicans told them we scold them.

Have YOU ever said they were suckups to whites? Because I certainly haven't. And I haven't heard anyone else saying it either.

Do we not listen to the economic issues of ALL Americans who are being fleeced by billionaire class? What economic issues are we NOT listening to? Or are you falling for the old trap of blaming Democrats for the things that we've tried to pass and republiQans have blocked. Are you, or are they, suggesting that republiQans ARE listening to their economic concerns? Is that a joke?

I'm wondering if you, and those making these arguments can hear yourselves.

This race was lost because of racism and sexism. Not because someone somewhere said "Latinx." And our mistake has been thinking that Hispanics, or Black men or white women or Democrats or any other group we deal with as a monolith does not have a percent who are racist and sexist.

Run a straight white middle-aged protestant man if we ever get another chance, and you'll see I'm right. I hate that I'm right, but I'm right.

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Why Democrats Are Losing Hispanic Voters [View all] Jk23 Nov 7 OP

Post removed Post removed Nov 7 #1

Trump targeting Black Haitian "migrants".... ananda Nov 7 #28

Sad to say racisim towards Black people definitely exists in some... brush Nov 7 #102

Wait till they get rounded up and shipped out durablend Nov 7 #2

Um who is going to round them up all the Sheriffs and Border folks down there are Hispanic. NT Jk23 Nov 7 #3

They are constantly hassling people near the border. They will have zero problem travelingthrulife Nov 7 #12

Lying that Dems dont care about them .... That is such a lie. Well when they get rounded up, i cant help them Trueblue1968 Nov 7 #22

I will be a rebel against DonOLD and most likely be in prision ....... Trueblue1968 Nov 7 #24

Good luck deporting ICE and CBP LeftInTX Nov 7 #23

Or, the proud boys 33taw Nov 7 #81

Sigh. Nobody is going to round up citizens. yardwork Nov 7 #36

Stephen Miller is planning to denaturalize Naturalized citizens nt Bookreadingliberal53 Nov 7 #73

In his wet dream at140 Nov 7 #101

You're nuts Wiz Imp Nov 7 #103

Exactly. Aristus Nov 8 #123

Trump has said he wants to strip them of their citizenship multiple times. Demsrule86 Nov 7 #115

look at the past AncientOfDays Nov 7 #116

Things have changed. Mexico won't accept them. LeftInTX Nov 8 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 8 #120

Why are some Hispanics not doing what's best for them? Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #4

They believe Trump's policies are their best interest. orange jar Nov 7 #9

What is it about Rethugs policies that it's in their best interests? Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #14

It is concerning. orange jar Nov 7 #20

They support border security and low prices LeftInTX Nov 7 #30

So they voted for the guy who trashed the Scrivener7 Nov 7 #71

Social issues Amishman Nov 7 #67

To be fair lots of moderates and older Dems LeftInTX Nov 7 #77

Huge factor BannonsLiver Nov 8 #138

They prefer low crime and secure borders Jk23 Nov 8 #117

This. yardwork Nov 7 #37

Condescending or not PhilosopherKing Nov 7 #48

Which policies oldmanlynn Nov 7 #57

"Latinx" is certainly one of the problems. orange jar Nov 7 #5

Well stated rollin74 Nov 7 #8

Everything you listed was a non-issue manufactured Scrivener7 Nov 7 #19

Just because the Republicans turned them into talking points Jk23 Nov 7 #25

They're not real concerns. And they're certainly Scrivener7 Nov 7 #27

I am not sure telling voters their concerns are not real is a winning strategy Jk23 Nov 7 #35

I'm not saying anything to "minorities." I'm Scrivener7 Nov 7 #49

Well calling people stupid isn't going to win them over. Talking over them isn't going to help either. If the Pisces Nov 7 #56

As I said above: this has nothing to do Scrivener7 Nov 7 #63

I don't disagree with you. I think if Biden had not run for reelection Kamala would not have been the Pisces Nov 7 #66

All we need to do is run a vanilla white guy. Sad as that is. Scrivener7 Nov 7 #68

And PS: is Latinx your language? It isn't my language. Scrivener7 Nov 7 #65

It was used quite a bit on MSNBC. prodigitalson Nov 8 #118

Senator Warren is selling merchandise on her website with Latinx MichMan Nov 8 #140

Oh, horrors! Then I guess it makes total Scrivener7 Nov 8 #144

Californians are overwhelmingly approving Prop 36 Sympthsical Nov 7 #95

And for some reason Harris didn't publicly supported Jk23 Nov 7 #109

What seems like a "non-issue" to you is going to be a major issue to someone else. orange jar Nov 7 #33

Sorry, no. I'm not taking responsibility for Scrivener7 Nov 7 #44

You are correct PhilosopherKing Nov 7 #50

This! SweepPicker Nov 7 #39

Then why would they vote for the man who Scrivener7 Nov 7 #46

The fact is Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #78

And they are just as susceptible to the propaganda that comes from the right wing propaganda machine oldmanlynn Nov 7 #60

agree but maybe some eduation is needed? it's a much more inclusive term cadoman Nov 7 #99

So that would be claudette Nov 8 #130

No about the women's place LeftInTX Nov 8 #133

Immigration, crime and inflation is what sunk us across the board radius777 Nov 8 #136

Oh, fuck that idiocy. When was the last time Scrivener7 Nov 7 #6

Mary Rose probably isnt gonna have sympathy for us either when... AkFemDem Nov 7 #45

Apparently someone is saying it Shrek Nov 7 #58

Yes. Because the very effective republiQan propaganda Scrivener7 Nov 7 #61

Yeah lets just pretend like it wasnt used on MSNBC prodigitalson Nov 8 #119

Let's just pretend they didn't stop using it some time ago. And let's just pretend THAT is a Scrivener7 Nov 8 #122

Lets just say it didnt help prodigitalson Nov 8 #125

Lol. I'm sure the Ukranians facing genocide share your Scrivener7 Nov 8 #132

100%. I've heard "Latinx" used once or twice on TV In my entire fucking life! 76 years. Greybnk48 Nov 8 #121

r's larwdem Nov 7 #7

They are in for quite a shock if they think the GOP cares about them. City Lights Nov 7 #10

If they're anything like the poor white dipshits who go Red... Orrex Nov 7 #18

I wish I could agree with you on the part you said they will Jspur Nov 7 #64

Another warning sign here in 2022 when Dems lost a special district in tx SunImp Nov 7 #11

You know what kacekwl Nov 7 #100

Yup nycbos Nov 7 #108

That explains why they're abandoning Democrats Orrex Nov 7 #13

Just curious Zeitghost Nov 7 #17

Some of the GOP hates them Abnredleg Nov 7 #34

Ah. That makes sense, alas. Orrex Nov 7 #40

Because in a lot of these areas all the Republicans are Hispanic Jk23 Nov 8 #142

Many disregard the issue here Zeitghost Nov 7 #15

This all day soandso Nov 7 #26

A person is stupid to vote for a Rethug if they are not filthy rich with a dark heart! Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #87

Okay but soandso Nov 7 #94

I'm curious - which of Trump's policies do your co-workers like? TheRickles Nov 7 #31

It's really more Zeitghost Nov 7 #91

Hispanics and muslims just tend to be conservative JI7 Nov 7 #16

A very long article that did little to illuminate the issue for me. Raven123 Nov 7 #21

Because Harris was a woman Dangling0826 Nov 7 #29

so is the current president of Mexico DBoon Nov 7 #32

These voters aren't living in Mexico, and she just got the job. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #55

It is said that Mexico is better than America in that aspect Dangling0826 Nov 7 #38

Just because they elected a woman? Pakistan? LeftInTX Nov 7 #47

I'm a veteran and.... AkFemDem Nov 7 #41

Maybe, call me crazy, but instead of slamming this couples concerns Docreed2003 Nov 7 #42

The dump admin will worry about them NEVER. Not one milisecond. onecaliberal Nov 7 #52

I don't disagree Docreed2003 Nov 7 #69

Misogyny, racism and sexism. onecaliberal Nov 7 #75

Connect how? Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #89

I think you aren't hearing what I'm saying Docreed2003 Nov 7 #98

Heard it, saw it, did it, watched it for 24 years now. Sparkly Nov 7 #113

Interesting that the OP was written two years ago MichMan Nov 8 #141

What's missing from this conversation Keepthesoulalive Nov 7 #43

Religion walkingman Nov 7 #51

It's simple: when the economy is perceived bad, the party in power gets the blame. Self Esteem Nov 7 #53

Nope. It was because a certain percentage of them, Scrivener7 Nov 7 #70

I do not agree and boiling it down to that doesn't fix the actual issues that might have led to that problem. Self Esteem Nov 7 #72

Yes. He was perceived as too old. Scrivener7 Nov 7 #74

In this economy? Same results. Self Esteem Nov 7 #76

Nope. And you seem to be falling for Scrivener7 Nov 7 #80

Except I have election data to back me up. Self Esteem Nov 7 #83

Election data doesn't say the economy is bad. It may say people Scrivener7 Nov 7 #86

It doesn't prove your point. Perception is reality. Self Esteem Nov 7 #90

Step outside the Blue bubble happybird Nov 7 #92

People said it was the economy last time they voted for trump too. It wasn't. It was racism and sexism. Scrivener7 Nov 7 #111

It all seems to be BS oldmanlynn Nov 7 #54

We're they asked what Republicans have done for them? surfered Nov 7 #59

Mary Rose Wilcox... AZSkiffyGeek Nov 7 #62

They seem to be taking a page from MAGA . kacekwl Nov 7 #79

Maga has a couple of kacekwl Nov 7 #82

I don't disagree Jk23 Nov 7 #84

It's a slur, now? You're pushing this very hard, aren't you? Scrivener7 Nov 7 #88

Actually I see it at work often in documentation and internal memos. Jk23 Nov 7 #93

A "real own goal" from which people, now? Scrivener7 Nov 7 #110

Maybe they'll get the care they're seeking from Trump. Politicub Nov 7 #85

They sound like idiots nt XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #96

The hate that Venezuelan migrants are getting wirk permots, housing and benefits immediayel when they struggled Demovictory9 Nov 7 #97

Hispanic voters have their citizenship, they have theirs. Silent Type Nov 7 #104

Mary Rose finds LatinX offensive MustLoveBeagles Nov 7 #105

Right wing Spanish Language radio stations now La Coliniere Nov 7 #106

Meh JustAnotherGen Nov 7 #107

"Ask not what you country can do for you" has become Sparkly Nov 7 #112

OMG. You are so right! Scrivener7 Nov 7 #114

Hispanics, I suppose, are like everyone else that votes in their own self interest. kentuck Nov 8 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Nov 8 #143

So the repuke party cares about Hispanics? kimbutgar Nov 8 #126

See this is the fundamental misunderstanding of the Hispanic vote Jk23 Nov 8 #131

So they voted for the guy who trashed the Scrivener7 Nov 8 #135

Evangelicos Maninacan Nov 8 #127

Not sure why claudette Nov 8 #128

Post removed Post removed Nov 8 #129

So, the last time we twisted ourselves into pretzels Scrivener7 Nov 8 #137

Same reason the descendants of Eastern and Southern Europeans vote GOP Retrograde Nov 8 #139