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LisaL

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68. Maybe we should learn how to make spin work for us.

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Why George Clooney Is Facing Major Backlash From Fans About Presidential Election [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 7 OP

Damn them, damn them all BluenFLA Nov 7 #1

Me too XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #3

Me three. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 8 #57

I doubt he would have won. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #4

I don't think there were any poll numbers showing that Kamala would do any better. LisaL Nov 8 #32

Sigh...And If Biden lost, we'd asking if we should have gone the other way. No one knows. RoeVWade Nov 8 #97

Nope. progressoid Nov 7 #9

My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 8 #20

He should have convinced Biden to not run at all dansolo Nov 13 #118

I feel pretty confident that Biden wouldn't have won the election Dorian Gray Nov 8 #60

I agree. I think he would have lost by more. CrispyQ Nov 9 #109

I actually still think that's true Deminpenn Nov 8 #62

I didn't want him pushed out happy feet Nov 8 #78

if you can, watch the 1st segment of Nicole Wallace's show yesterday, Matthew Dowd made an excellent point Native Nov 8 #80

I thought it was horrible how they pushed Joe out, tanyev Nov 8 #89

I totally agree. bif Nov 9 #113

We can make a pretty good guess based on his really low approval ratings. AkFemDem Nov 8 #85

Well, as much as I've always loved Clooney, it is hard not to feel conflicted... hlthe2b Nov 7 #2

It was stupid. It was too late to change course. LisaL Nov 8 #21

Look at Joe Biden's approval numbers, then look at how voters view Trump. Biden has been light years better than Trump. Doodley Nov 7 #5

Biden's favorability ratings haven't hit 50 percent since 2021. onenote Nov 8 #19

I was ready to send Clooney Deep State Witch Nov 7 #6

He was trying to save this country. Sorry - but he was right. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 7 #7

Right? LisaL Nov 8 #24

Yes he was right, its pretty obvious AkFemDem Nov 8 #87

How do you think.. whathehell Nov 9 #101

of course he was Skittles Nov 8 #48

Age and public appearance fucked Joe Biden. SharonClark Nov 7 #11

Why didn't age and public appearance fuck Trump? LisaL Nov 8 #23

because he is a repuke Skittles Nov 8 #49

Because NOTHING sticks to Trump Dorian Gray Nov 8 #61

I believe the inflation factor is missing from your list True Dough Nov 8 #56

Nancy P. had a hand in it. CentralMass Nov 8 #39

President Biden had a 39% to 41% approval rating in exit polls. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 7 #8

What is Trump's rating? LisaL Nov 8 #27

"Major backlash" by social media idiots? SharonClark Nov 7 #10

Of course Clooney doesn't care. LisaL Nov 8 #22

Biden runs in 2016 kwolf68 Nov 7 #12

He was also mourning the loss of his son Beau Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 7 #14

I agree. Full stop. I thought Joe Biden would have ran in 2016. In It to Win It Nov 8 #52

The odds were against either Biden or Clinton in 2016 MichMan Nov 8 #88

The backlash against Clonoey is deserved regardless of Biden's approval rating standingtall Nov 7 #13

👆 CentralMass Nov 8 #36

I Agreed With Clooney Florida Dem Nov 8 #15

So why didn't he pen a similar Op-Ed about Trump? LisaM Nov 8 #55

Maybe he should have asked a year ago pstokely Nov 8 #16

Bingo newdeal2 Nov 8 #17

Maybe all of us should have asked a year ago too In It to Win It Nov 8 #28

THIS soandso Nov 8 #53

I didn't like what he did but Biden would have lost by more JI7 Nov 8 #18

Biden wouldn't have lost by more. LisaL Nov 8 #25

He would have lost by less In It to Win It Nov 8 #26

Well I guess we will never know. LisaL Nov 8 #29

Running an unpopular candidate, which he was (unfairly and undeservingly), was also stupid In It to Win It Nov 8 #31

What was Trump's approval rating? LisaL Nov 8 #33

I imagine they were also bad because Trump never had good approval numbers but Trump was not our candidate. In It to Win It Nov 8 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Elessar Zappa Nov 8 #30

Did you see Biden on the Campaign trail in the last few weeks? Jk23 Nov 8 #91

Honestly flvegan Nov 8 #35

It was Joe Biden's decision. The party couldn't make Joe Biden step aside. In It to Win It Nov 8 #37

Party demanding him to step aside forced him to do it. LisaL Nov 8 #38

Because it wasn't obvious that he should then. A Biden-Trump rematch seemed like anyone's guess In It to Win It Nov 8 #43

And what was pushing him out so late in a game going to accomplish? LisaL Nov 8 #45

The same that keeping him would have accomplished, a loss. In It to Win It Nov 8 #47

Lisa, he obviously wasn't fit for this Dorian Gray Nov 8 #63

Is Trump fit for this? LisaL Nov 8 #66

Of course not Dorian Gray Nov 9 #99

Why do Trump voters think he is fit for this? LisaL Nov 9 #108

I don't know why Trump voters think he's fit for this Dorian Gray Nov 13 #117

Reality or "vibes?" emulatorloo Nov 9 #115

Reality Dorian Gray Nov 13 #116

Article: Pelosi demonstrated the art of her power by pushing Biden out CentralMass Nov 8 #41

The ultimate irony. Democrats were afraid that Biden would lose and take down the House with him, LisaL Nov 8 #44

Well 2020 was an emergency sunnybrook Nov 8 #54

I truly don't see how any reasonable person saw a man up to a vigorous campaign. TheKentuckian Nov 8 #40

When people look at Trump, do they see a man up to a vigorous campaign? LisaL Nov 8 #42

You keep repeating this AZSkiffyGeek Nov 8 #77

Because it pisses me off that all these rules only apply to one side. LisaL Nov 8 #81

Ask Republicans AZSkiffyGeek Nov 8 #82

I don't need to ask Republicans. LisaL Nov 8 #86

Hell no! Chump was unfit as a baseline and now he is falling apart from that unacceptable state TheKentuckian Nov 8 #93

I'd like Clooney, Rob Reiner, Pelosi and whoever else Hassler Nov 8 #46

Exactly that was part of the justification for forcing standingtall Nov 8 #64

My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 8 #69

Why should anyone listen to an actor exboyfil Nov 8 #50

I have to wonder who the millions of Dems were that stayed home voris820 Nov 8 #51

About 100 million eligible voters couldn't be bothered to vote. The country is getting exactly what it deserves, and it JohnSJ Nov 8 #59

It wouldn't have mattered. After the disastrous debate President Biden's fate was sealed. The press would never had JohnSJ Nov 8 #58

There were so many things that Trump has done, LisaL Nov 8 #65

that spin only works for republicans. JohnSJ Nov 8 #67

Maybe we should learn how to make spin work for us. LisaL Nov 8 #68

I don't think it would work with the current media frenzy. They were so focused on Biden's "cognitive abilities", while JohnSJ Nov 8 #71

I blame media for this debacle as well. LisaL Nov 8 #72

I agree. They did the same thing against Hillary. I can't remember the exact numbers but the number of negative JohnSJ Nov 8 #73

He's getting his tax cuts RandiFan1290 Nov 8 #70

I would blame the donors more than Clooney, it was them that forced Joe out. Mr. Sparkle Nov 8 #74

George Clooney is a smug asshole SADAR Nov 8 #75

It will pass................. Lovie777 Nov 8 #76

Clooney is just another snake like Stephanopolous. live love laugh Nov 8 #79

If anything this election demonstrated our side also has a problem with donors BluenFLA Nov 8 #83

And neither Tester nor Brown benefited from Biden dropping out. LisaL Nov 8 #84

Seriously what did he do wrong Jk23 Nov 9 #100

Trump appeared "naked" on television day in and day out, but did you hear republican party pointing it out? LisaL Nov 9 #105

It started with James Carville. After the debate he called dem donors and told them to withhold money for Biden. ellemb Nov 8 #90

And EauClare Mac Catskill smearing him immediately after the debate. Clouds Passing Nov 9 #104

The biggest reason Harris lost was because voters associated her with an unpopular incumbent President Jose Garcia Nov 8 #92

I don't think that's the biggest reason that Harris lost. LisaL Nov 9 #103

Clooney is a dumbass now... Ysabel Nov 8 #94

Clooney is mega rich XanaDUer2 Nov 8 #95

We know. LisaL Nov 9 #106

Exactly XanaDUer2 Nov 9 #107

The debate PennRalphie Nov 8 #96

I don't CARE if some people think he was right. I STILL HATE HIM. Jack Valentino Nov 8 #98

Yep. Both senators lost spectacularly. LisaL Nov 9 #102

Democratic leadership knew that Biden was in declining both in the polls and in his sharpness Clouds Passing Nov 9 #110

Were/are they really fans or are they people just bitching ? republianmushroom Nov 9 #111

It doesn't matter. Emile Nov 9 #112

Clooney and Pelosi deserve criticism kansasobama Nov 9 #114

He did the right thing. What Pelosi is pointing to and in a very public Passages Nov 13 #119