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oldreliable_one

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52. Kitchen table issues

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 07:18 AM

Nov 8

The Dems need to appeal to simple things. Affordability. Gas prices. Food prices. These things matter to the vast majority of Americans. Talking about statistics and percentages and how the economy is so great and wonderful means nothing when you're struggling. It makes you sound elitist and out of touch; the term "limousine liberal" comes to mind - the wealthy lecturing the poor that everything is all hunky dory.

People may not like Trump but he says things that relate to them about prices. Trump is a monster and so is the GOP; but politically inactive people are willing to look past that since he talks about things that relate to them. Of course he is full of crap and won't help them at all, but he and the GOP have an excellent ground game. Bernie Sanders is right - the Dems have the perception of being a party out of touch with the working class.

James Carville said that the Democratic Party seems to be turning into the party of "preachy women" - and like it or not, talking down to people about graphs and charts and statistics from some university people haven't heard of is not a way to convince them to vote for you.

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Democrats aren't going to win elections again until they build a well-oiled information ecosystem [View all] flamingdem Nov 7 OP

this. It's the propaganda, stupid. unblock Nov 7 #1

+1 GoodRaisin Nov 7 #45

I wish I knew. unblock Nov 7 #47

BINGO!!! The DNC needs its version of FAUX NewZ PERIOD !! FAUX NewZ is candy for LIVs, the amount of disinformation... uponit7771 Nov 7 #2

I think social media and podcasts are actually more influential than Fox News. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #27

I heard the other day TheFarseer Nov 8 #55

This AZSkiffyGeek Nov 8 #57

Get to work Democrats. oasis Nov 7 #3

It's always been an information war. Phoenix61 Nov 7 #4

I saw this coming back in the early Rush days. OnionPatch Nov 7 #10

Me too. lynnyl Nov 7 #24

Why oh why can't our side have radio! OnionPatch Nov 8 #50

Agree. We cannot rely on any existing media to refute the lies and accurately report the news. Lonestarblue Nov 7 #5

I wonder what Marc Cuban is doing? flamingdem Nov 7 #6

Unless you get Randi Rhodes on board with information sharing and spreading the effort won't be worth a fuck SoFlaBro Nov 7 #48

They drilled a well that came up dry bucolic_frolic Nov 7 #7

Well TSF did. johnnyfins Nov 7 #31

? Lemon Lyman Nov 7 #8

We don't need to be like them OnionPatch Nov 7 #11

- Lemon Lyman Nov 7 #12

How in the world do we counter Rogan flamingdem Nov 7 #21

There's got to be a way to make liberalism interesting. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #29

TV is for the 80s and 90s BannonsLiver Nov 7 #33

We have to remember the young men who are red hats have grown up seeing trump FloridaBlues Nov 7 #37

You know what the fuck seems to do well, podcasts that critique and goof on these fucking RW shit fountains. SoFlaBro Nov 7 #49

If the economy under shithole tanks.................. Lovie777 Nov 7 #9

If we're ever allowed to have free & fair elections Island Blue Nov 7 #17

This Ars Longa Nov 7 #22

Not if they Gop Ussr are successful at saying it was the dems fault oldmanlynn Nov 7 #30

Yes yes yes Sunsky Nov 7 #13

I think I disagree with this somewhat EarlG Nov 7 #14

So true that dems will win again after repubs destroy everything! flamingdem Nov 7 #20

That starts with stop relying on legacy media. Yavin4 Nov 7 #15

I said it in another post but Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #32

we had air america, and no dems took out ads. not john kerry, not any of them. mopinko Nov 7 #16

Raise your hand if you subscribe to Daily Kos Bobstandard Nov 7 #18

Wonkette too! Easterncedar Nov 7 #26

It's not possible at this point. GaYellowDawg Nov 7 #19

Fox is a relic BannonsLiver Nov 7 #36

1000% SomedayKindaLove Nov 8 #60

There aren't going to be elections. Our country is finished. NNadir Nov 7 #23

I think there will still be elections -- Russian style, where it just doesn't matter William Seger Nov 7 #25

It's Not Just Fox Noise Deep State Witch Nov 7 #28

Right and they are " monetized". I have tried to explain this to my very gullible friend time and time again. tulipsandroses Nov 7 #34

Nonsense. You can't change these people. Stop trashing the Democratic Party over valleyrogue Nov 7 #35

Won't be easy Jmoncada Nov 8 #59

That's clear to me as well. BannonsLiver Nov 7 #38

"Information ecosystem" is horrible babble. Wanting it to be "well-oiled" is crappy mixing of metaphors. muriel_volestrangler Nov 7 #39

We need to build the ecosystem, and then we need to *support it*. keep_left Nov 7 #40

People keep saying we need our own Fox News ibegurpard Nov 7 #41

I was thinking along these lines myself. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 7 #42

You are leaving out every Sunday morning in America! IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 7 #43

THIS is only part of it kwolf68 Nov 7 #44

The main problem isn't Fox. orange jar Nov 7 #46

Where is our liberal podcasters that reach young women? Demovictory9 Nov 8 #53

This! happy feet Nov 8 #51

Kitchen table issues oldreliable_one Nov 8 #52

You eject an incumbent power with anger bucolic_frolic Nov 8 #54

We lost the propaganda wars. Irish_Dem Nov 8 #56

I think a lot of Republican voters are clueless TheFarseer Nov 8 #58