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Ocelot II

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34. I agree. We won't be rid of misogyny in another four years. Maybe never.

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:28 PM

Nov 8

If we run another woman candidate next time we'll lose again, assuming there's an election at all. It's going to have to be a middle-aged white guy, as much as it hurts to say that. Maybe in 50 or 100 years, if the country still exists, it might be possible. But most of us will never see it. Almost every other country in the world has had a female head of state, including some countries you wouldn't expect (e.g., Pakistan, the Philipines, Myanmar and India). But not us.

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My picks to head the 2028 ticket [View all] newdayneeded Nov 8 OP

Honestly, it breaks my heart to say it Bettie Nov 8 #1

I couldn't agree more Bettie.... democratsruletheday Nov 8 #24

I agree. We won't be rid of misogyny in another four years. Maybe never. Ocelot II Nov 8 #34

Cuts enid602 Nov 8 #37

Exactly. LakeArenal Nov 8 #102

Here was the first article on my feed Wednesday late morning IbogaProject Nov 9 #107

sadly I have come to the same conclusion after some soul searching today rurallib Nov 8 #41

Russian style elections Walleye Nov 8 #76

Yep, they still have elections in Russia - that'll be the model rurallib Nov 8 #78

After Trump won, I kept thinking "do not congratulate" Walleye Nov 8 #80

No we won't. I am in my 40s and I don't think we'll see one in my lifetime. Initech Nov 8 #44

I agree at this point, and we need to give this a rest for a couple of election oldmanlynn Nov 8 #49

I have zero issues running a woman if she wins a competitive nomination Jk23 Nov 8 #53

Hillary was in no way annointed. StevieM Nov 8 #101

My wife said the same thing Jersey Devil Nov 8 #58

We're not being misogynist Mossfern Nov 8 #94

"Strategic" or not making the man-babies uncomfortable? Bettie Nov 8 #98

The first thing my brother said MFM008 Nov 8 #60

I think the first woman president will be a Republican exboyfil Nov 8 #88

True, but he's 79. Algernon Moncrieff Nov 8 #91

Sadly, the first woman President will probably be Ivanka RedSpartan Nov 8 #100

Wish I could be so optimistic Freddie Nov 8 #2

The 2028 Dem nominee will be a straight, white, centrist male Fiendish Thingy Nov 8 #3

Al Franken ScratchCat Nov 8 #13

Love Al Franken. I saw him on Bill Maher a few weeks ago, he's lost a step or two. But, he's still Al Silent Type Nov 8 #35

I love Al but he's a little old Jk23 Nov 8 #55

He'd be 77. I know trump is 78. But will Al really want to? jimfields33 Nov 8 #56

But he'd probably be running against Vance Polybius Nov 8 #87

Does not have to be centrist PhilosopherKing Nov 8 #16

We will see what the party's big donors will allow. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 8 #17

A manly man MuseRider Nov 8 #68

I was just clearing out my mind MuseRider Nov 8 #69

Eric Swalwell. CrispyQ Nov 8 #86

Well said FT and I agree totally.... democratsruletheday Nov 8 #26

Andy Beshear Meadowoak Nov 8 #29

I think Andy will be a strong candidate Buckeyeblue Nov 8 #51

Beshear or Newsom are the likely front runners Fiendish Thingy Nov 8 #65

Newsom will have the same liberal stereotypes to fight that Harris had Rstrstx Nov 8 #83

I like Governors. Executive experience is a huge asset... Mark.b2 Nov 8 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 8 #36

I think a centrist black or latino man would be better radius777 Nov 8 #70

I can think of tons of great candidates Fiendish Thingy Nov 8 #72

I love Wes Moore. A real likable guy. I don't know a lot about him, tho. CTyankee Nov 8 #82

Agree...as much as we would like to see a FE POTUS. We must pick a winning ticket..if it be straight white PortTack Nov 8 #105

Harris won't be the nominee. Obama has no interest. Gore1FL Nov 8 #4

We've been burned twice. We can't get a woman elected Meadowoak Nov 8 #38

The first female President . . . Du916 Nov 8 #89

Gretchen Would Have Been My Choice SoCalDavidS Nov 8 #5

We have a very deep bench Quiet Em Nov 8 #6

Andy Beshear is our best shot. Meadowoak Nov 8 #43

charisma ventuckian Nov 8 #7

I like AOC Emile Nov 8 #8

A socialist from the Bronx should lose comradebillyboy Nov 8 #33

A socialist *woman* from the Bronx will lose all 50. Ocelot II Nov 8 #39

No! We can't win with a woman. Meadowoak Nov 8 #45

A thread where the majority view appears to be Voltaire2 Nov 8 #95

We've tried twice and failed. Sorry but America isn't ready. Meadowoak Nov 8 #99

Say hello to 8 years of Vance in that case. BannonsLiver Nov 8 #9

I think at most 6 years of Vance Darwins_Retriever Nov 8 #32

You may be right. BannonsLiver Nov 8 #48

Or 40. Meadowoak Nov 8 #46

Did you mean Stacey Abrams? Polybius Nov 8 #10

No women. We've been burned twice. Meadowoak Nov 8 #47

Pete Butigegg....nt global1 Nov 8 #11

He'd be a great pick! newdayneeded Nov 8 #12

Nope newdeal2 Nov 8 #15

QFT.... democratsruletheday Nov 8 #30

I wish, but nope Darwins_Retriever Nov 8 #42

NO way to Pete... democratsruletheday Nov 8 #28

I love Pete, but the right would attack the shit out of him. Meadowoak Nov 8 #50

Apparently the only woman that might be elected would be a Republican BluenFLA Nov 8 #14

Just forget about having a woman president, it's just never going to happen Meadowoak Nov 8 #54

She would have to be a Stepford wife. Jit423 Nov 8 #71

I question if we'll even have a presidential election Emile Nov 8 #18

Abrams and Harris are done as national political figures. Michelle Obama has no interest. tritsofme Nov 8 #19

She's our first trangendered newdayneeded Nov 8 #20

I looked her up, she won a seat in the House not the Senate. tritsofme Nov 8 #23

I honestly don't blame her one bit. Initech Nov 8 #59

Exactly what I was going to say. ellemb Nov 8 #64

She's someone who can lose all 50 states. comradebillyboy Nov 8 #66

It will be J. B. Pritzker obamanut2012 Nov 8 #21

I love Walz but in retrospect Pritzker might have been a better VP pick Algernon Moncrieff Nov 8 #92

Harris is finished nationally, which is so sad obamanut2012 Nov 8 #22

Fox News royally fucked her chances of being president. Initech Nov 8 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 8 #25

Sounds like doubling down on a losing strategy. comradebillyboy Nov 8 #27

Sheldon Whitehouse Mz Pip Nov 8 #31

No JustAnotherGen Nov 8 #40

I think Fetterman might be a good one Diamond_Dog Nov 8 #61

Gavin Newsome oldmanlynn Nov 8 #52

Absolutely NOT! boston bean Nov 8 #62

Ok, as much as it pains me to say this, unless Michelle Obama is up for it... SKKY Nov 8 #63

AOC. NT. Voltaire2 Nov 8 #67

Unfortunately we would lose again. The USA just is not ready yet for a woman at the top of the ticket. And if a woman beaglelover Nov 8 #73

We have a great bench, these are my current picks BluenFLA Nov 8 #74

John Fetterman worries me Homoudont Nov 8 #93

If he still had hair, was taller, and wasn't a ginger I'd say Bill Burr. TheKentuckian Nov 8 #75

The Rs can run a woman and win intrepidity Nov 8 #77

Getting ahead of ourselves a bit! Hope22 Nov 8 #79

Nope Lotusflower70 Nov 8 #81

Seriously after a long four years women may not even be voting remember..... Hope22 Nov 8 #85

Sorry, but there will never be a female president Island Blue Nov 8 #84

VP maybe Homoudont Nov 8 #90

The top of the ticket is most likely going to be a straight white male JI7 Nov 8 #96

We're going back after the Latino vote, VEEP will be Latino. AkFemDem Nov 8 #104

A good idea, but Michelle Obama is a no-go. She hates politics and has no desire to run for President. Nt Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 8 #97

Gonna be a man- younger... Shapiro or Beshear AkFemDem Nov 8 #103

Only if we want to lose the next election, assuming there is one jmowreader Nov 9 #108

LOL. alarimer Nov 9 #109

Michelle Obama will speak out when it's important (like for Harris), but has said many times that she's put in her time Rhiannon12866 Nov 11 #110

Maryland Gov Wes Moore. PragmaticLiberal Nov 11 #111