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WhiskeyGrinder

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Sat Nov 9, 2024, 09:33 PM Nov 9

The Media Can't Figure Out Why Some Racist Israeli Soccer Hooligans Were Beaten Up [View all]

https://defector.com/the-media-cant-figure-out-why-some-racist-israeli-soccer-hooligans-were-beaten-up

After a few hours and several substantial edits, the Times' article about Thursday's events has something approaching a comprehensive picture of what went down—though to get it, you still have to patch together a timeline from the facts scattered throughout the article. It all started on Wednesday, the day before the match, when a sizable number of Maccabi fans arrived into Amsterdam to watch their team take on Ajax in the Europa League. Coinciding with the Maccabi fans' arrival, pro-Palestinian activists assembled in Dam Square in protest of Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Gaza.

Groups of Maccabi fans reportedly went through the city, confronting the pro-Palestine protesters and generally causing trouble. Videos show Maccabi fans tearing down Palestine flags from the windows of private residences. In one such video, you can hear people serenading the flag-ripper with "Fuck you, Palestine." Per the NYT, Amsterdam police say some Israeli fans burned one Palestine flag and also vandalized a taxi. One Twitter account posted a video that purportedly shows a Maccabi fan smashing a taxi with a chain.

Tensions remained high going into Thursday, the day of the match. Maccabi fans again took to the streets, at times chanting racist phrases like "Death to the Arabs." One chant heard on video goes "Let the IDF win, we will fuck the Arabs." Lyrics of that same Maccabi song include "Why is school out in Gaza? There are no children left there." A photographer spotted one Maccabi fan unfurling a Make America Great Again flag. These scenes led to further clashes with pro-Palestine protesters. Several videos going around social media show violence between locals and Maccabi fans. The following, widely shared video can be found in many news articles, often positioned as evidence of Dutch violence on Israelis—a CNN World video explicitly presents the video as "Israeli football fans [being] beaten and injured"—even though the photographer who took the video has clarified that it depicts Maccabi fans attacking a Dutch man

In response to Wednesday's events, Amsterdam police were out in full force on Thursday, though their presence didn't prevent all of the violence. After the match itself, a 5-0 Ajax victory, during which Maccabi fans disrupted a moment of silence for victims of the recent floods in Valencia, Spain—the Spanish government has made efforts to distance itself from Israel in light of the attacks on Gaza—Dutch authorities escorted Maccabi fans onto a fleet of buses that took them from the stadium to their hotels. However, some Maccabi fans who lingered around the city found themselves set upon by groups of Dutchmen, who, as Amsterdam city council member Jazie Veldhuyzen put it in an interview with Al Jazeera English, "mobilized themselves" and "countered the attacks that started on Wednesday." On social media, there are videos that purportedly show these "scooter youth" fighting Maccabi fans.
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You left out the cheap shot at President Biden. Mosby Nov 9 #1
I figured some folks would focus on that instead of what actually happened in Amsterdam, so excerpted just the salient WhiskeyGrinder Nov 9 #2
What does focusing on what actually happened have to do with this story? Beastly Boy Nov 9 #8
There is this. Eko Nov 9 #3
Yeah, I can clearly see the half dozen or so hardened hooligans in this picture Beastly Boy Nov 9 #6
Yeah I didn't say that. I specifically didn't say that. I specifically said this wasn't evidence for the rest at all. Eko Nov 9 #9
Let me rethink that... Beastly Boy Nov 10 #16
Thx Mosby Hekate Nov 11 #80
I can't figure out how some 60 masked peaceful pro-Palestinian protesters were arrested for Beastly Boy Nov 9 #4
It's pretty obvious to me JustAnotherGen Nov 9 #5
Maybe some context from this Jewish Israeli politician in the Knesset will help vanessa_ca Nov 10 #28
Good on the Knesset member who represents 6% of Israelis on the extreme left of the political spectrum. Beastly Boy Nov 10 #32
Hadash hold 5 seats Israeli Nov 11 #52
I see it more as Israel's democrats losing our country. Beastly Boy Nov 11 #55
And the Israeli media? As usual: approaches, hides, and distorts reality in the service of the authorities. Israeli Nov 11 #50
Easy there, zimmy. Iggo Nov 11 #78
"Death to the Arabs". AloeVera Nov 9 #7
You know Israel likes dump right? Eko Nov 9 #10
Only 17% of Israelis supported Harris for Pres??! AloeVera Nov 9 #12
Nah, we have to keep supporting them on their Eko Nov 9 #14
Are you American ??? Israeli Nov 11 #51
Yup, I am an American. Eko Nov 11 #73
Welcome to my world Israeli Nov 13 #82
Ha thanks. Eko Nov 13 #83
Why would Democrats get upset with what what non-voting Israelis 5000 miles away think, rather than Beastly Boy Nov 10 #19
I have news for you... choie Nov 10 #26
What a coincidence! Beastly Boy Nov 10 #27
That's 22% fucking stupid asses choie Nov 10 #36
Not to disagree with you, but how does this relate to Beastly Boy Nov 10 #38
50% of Catholics, 60% of Protestants voted for that criminal. Mosby Nov 10 #46
So do American Muslims. Beastly Boy Nov 9 #13
So that makes which one good? Eko Nov 9 #15
you tell me. Beastly Boy Nov 10 #17
Did I not ask you? Eko Nov 10 #20
Watch me ignore your endless bickering: Beastly Boy Nov 10 #22
Watch all of us see you not answering a easy question. Eko Nov 10 #25
American muslims showed themselves as single issue voters. Mosby Nov 10 #47
I think their answer will be obvious choie Nov 10 #37
That could be totally right, Eko Nov 10 #18
No, silly, the conversation is about the antisemitic attack by supporters of Palestine against supporters of a friggin Beastly Boy Nov 10 #21
I mean, dump sign? Israels supprt for dump? Eko Nov 10 #24
I will take a wild guess and say Beastly Boy Nov 9 #11
Great post malaise Nov 10 #31
Assaulting an Arab cab driver, tearing down Palestinian flags, racist chants, vandalism... Rob H. Nov 10 #23
...as 60 alleged assilants of a cab driver ended up in a hospital with serious injuries, including knife wounds. Beastly Boy Nov 10 #34
63 people were arrested, about 30 suffered light injuries, and five were treated Rob H. Nov 10 #39
Dutch authorities, including King Wilhelm-Alexander, described the attacks as antisemitic. Beastly Boy Nov 10 #41
10 Israelis were injured, according to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. AloeVera Nov 10 #48
If they were locals, they were all Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters. Beastly Boy Nov 10 #49
It's surprising more locals weren't injured Rob H. Nov 11 #56
Everyone should watch this video. AloeVera Nov 11 #68
Let me explain some of this from a Euro Football culture point of view Prairie Gates Nov 10 #29
THIS malaise Nov 10 #45
Good report malaise Nov 10 #30
Sky News reported on it, accurately at first Rob H. Nov 10 #33
... and then, for no reason, changed their minds and decided to report outright lies... Beastly Boy Nov 10 #35
This person actually lives in the Netherlands Rob H. Nov 10 #40
So do the Mayor of Amsterdam and the King of Netherlands, I suspect. Beastly Boy Nov 10 #43
That's shocking. I used to think Sky News was a trustworthy source. Mr. Sparkle Nov 11 #53
FAFO racist assholes. ZonkerHarris Nov 10 #42
This just in: Violent hominids behave according to their nature misanthrope Nov 10 #44
Good report here malaise Nov 11 #54
all sources deny that the Jewish supporters misbehaved or brought aggression upon themselves" Mosby Nov 11 #57
De Telegraaf is a right-wing tabloid Rob H. Nov 11 #60
So what? Mosby Nov 11 #63
Right-wing sources aren't permitted here Rob H. Nov 11 #70
That's not accurate Mosby Nov 11 #72
Calling out racism and bigotry, sure Rob H. Nov 11 #81
Hamas supporters attacked Jews leaving Noa Kirel's concert in New York City last night. Mosby Nov 11 #58
Trumps steal has emboldened racists peregrinus Nov 11 #74
Yes, and just because it's starting with Jews Mosby Nov 11 #75
Is this kid a racist? Are all Jews legitimate targets? Mosby Nov 11 #59
The "Jew Hunt" was planned days before. Mosby Nov 11 #61
The "Jew Hunt" is starting in Begium Mosby Nov 11 #62
Amazon employee Alfaisal Al Khaledi shockingly defends the antisemitic pogroms Mosby Nov 11 #64
Richie Torres on the Pogrom Mosby Nov 11 #65
AIPAC is his biggest donor Rob H. Nov 11 #71
The antisemitic mob also beat up women Mosby Nov 11 #66
New info Mosby Nov 11 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Nov 11 #69
Riots have broken out again in Amsterdam tonight Mosby Nov 11 #76
Amsterdam Mayor Femke Halsema.... Mosby Nov 11 #77
The horrifying videos just keep coming out of Amsterdam Mosby Nov 11 #79
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