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Ocelot II

(121,473 posts) Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:19 PM Nov 10

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Ya know what bugs me about the claim that it was all about the economy? [View all]

It's the fact that Black women - the most economically disadvantaged group of all - voted overwhelmingly for Harris, while White men, the people who have most of the money, went for Trump. Black women were hurt at least as much as anyone else by the cost of groceries and gas, probably more. Why didn't they swing over to Trump like those White men who were so outraged at having to pay an extra buck for a carton of eggs? Sure, there are poor White people who struggle on account of inflation, but at least the Black women understood that voting for Trump meant selling out our rights and our democracy for the empty promise of cheaper groceries. So don't tell me it was all just the economy and not the racism and the misogyny.

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Ya know what bugs me about the claim that it was all about the economy? [View all] Ocelot II Nov 10 OP

I think it's hard to pin it on any one thing. Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #1

I agree that it wasn't just one thing, but I'm reading a lot of analyses Ocelot II Nov 10 #4

It wasn't just one thing. It also wasn't just one constituency. InstantGratification Nov 10 #18

Yes I don't buy the economy claim Tribetime Nov 10 #70

I agree except... Trust_Reality Nov 11 #89

I just want to say godblessyou for this post n/t BaronChocula Nov 11 #81

I agree with this assessment.nt jfz9580m Nov 10 #16

Don't forget racism! Native Nov 10 #17

it was the misogeny and the racsim Ray Bruns Nov 10 #38

This white man is proud to have went for Harris EnergizedLib Nov 10 #2

It wasn't the economy. That was an excuse. CousinIT Nov 10 #3

Bingo. My point exactly. Ocelot II Nov 10 #5

+1, the German economy was doing relatively well when Nazi part won 37% or parliament. The excuse that it was the ... uponit7771 Nov 10 #7

JoJo from Jerz's mom didn't raise no idjits. soldierant Nov 10 #41

☝🏾THIS!!☝🏾 Robison was ***JUST LIKE*** Trump without crime and MAGA dropped him like a hot rock and he lost !! uponit7771 Nov 10 #6

"She is for they/them. He is for you." Duncan Grant Nov 10 #8

"Culture war" krkaufman Nov 10 #24

I like the way you put it Ohioboy Nov 11 #76

They ran that gender-affirming care for incarcerated trans people commercial relentlessly. Shermann Nov 10 #34

I have this feeling that MAGA, having got what they wanted ismnotwasm Nov 10 #9

Repugs are the dogs that caught the car again. Trouble is they won't know what allegorical oracle Nov 10 #15

I JUST sent that to a friend; "they caught the car, lets see what they do with it" hootman Nov 10 #32

True. But we are here to point out, that this, is exactly what they voted for ismnotwasm Nov 10 #36

I think it's the latter. calimary Nov 11 #90

We need to wear T-shirts that say "Don't blame me for this, I voted for Kamala" FakeNoose Nov 10 #31

Yup! ismnotwasm Nov 10 #35

My neighboor flew a big ass flag that read " don't blame me , I voted for trump" during President Biden's term. debm55 Nov 10 #42

It wasn't the economy Jrsygrl96 Nov 10 #10

I think it's a lot more than Black and Latino men. Katinfl Nov 10 #30

White women as well DemonGoddess Nov 10 #40

Black Men voted for Harris in very similar percentages as they voted for Biden (77% vs 79%) Wiz Imp Nov 10 #46

Don't say Black men. Yavin4 Nov 10 #62

I'm not buying that entirely Ontheboundry Nov 11 #82

If Trump was non white like the crazy North Carolina candidate JI7 Nov 10 #11

"It's the economy, stupid." Carville's mantra. cachukis Nov 10 #12

"No, it's about YOUR economy, stupid. Mine is really good!" Jit423 Nov 10 #55

I think you missed my point. cachukis Nov 10 #57

Yes, that explanation doesn't sit well with me Mike 03 Nov 10 #13

white women who voted for him were probably living lives of quiet desperation of some degree, IMO. CTyankee Nov 10 #19

White women vote white first, class second, women third. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #58

I know SO many white women who voted for him & I cant understand it. hootman Nov 10 #33

I don't think it was ALL about the economy, but I do think it was PARTLY about the economy In It to Win It Nov 10 #14

My current favorite quote: TxGuitar Nov 10 #20

The economy was a cover story for Russia & Elon Musk's attack on our voting systems. Botany Nov 10 #21

Just like we saw in 2016 much of their economic anxiety is already receding TheKentuckian Nov 10 #22

I think the answer is pretty obvious..this country is too racist and misogynistic to elect a FE president PortTack Nov 10 #23

Economists overwhelmingly agree Trump's policies will INCREASE inflation Martin Eden Nov 10 #25

Democrats never defended the economy strongly enough. kentuck Nov 10 #26

A brilliant, short piece about what voters were thinking Akakoji Nov 10 #27

It was misinformation disinformation misinformation disinformation oldmanlynn Nov 10 #28

Yes, an avalanche of disinformation... Trust_Reality Nov 11 #91

The Repukes said it was "all about the economy" FakeNoose Nov 10 #29

40+ years of trickle down economics has poli-junkie Nov 10 #37

Have to address the stupid part of that Akakoji Nov 10 #48

The economy is booming PennRalphie Nov 10 #39

Chump won on a positive message is a tough sell. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #59

One of the other things which played into it DemonGoddess Nov 10 #43

No, it WASN'T about the economy. And IMO, saying so just B.See Nov 10 #44

Disagree Akakoji Nov 10 #49

Well I don't think it was mainly the economy B.See Nov 10 #56

But What Is The Trump Plan For Cheap Eggs? DallasNE Nov 10 #45

I'm not buying the economy BS. If that's the case, you have no effin morals, no effin principles tulipsandroses Nov 10 #47

The bulk of voters vote with what's poli-junkie Nov 10 #50

It wasn't the economy Dlpger61 Nov 10 #60

Tariffs, tax cuts for the super rich, austerity, vaccine hokum, 7 trillion of empty debt, mass deportations are going to TheKentuckian Nov 10 #61

Plus a gazillion. love_katz Nov 10 #69

It was about inflation and Republican propaganda Emile Nov 10 #51

Ocelot II FTW. madaboutharry Nov 10 #52

It was all about maintaining the white anglo male power base GoreWon2000 Nov 10 #53

I think it's an after-the-fact cover story morillon Nov 10 #54

It isn't about the ones who voted for Harris. Ms. Toad Nov 10 #63

"And that is largely pocketbook economy and Gaza" TheKentuckian Nov 11 #78

It was about the economy, get over it. Xolodno Nov 10 #64

"Get over it"? Ocelot II Nov 10 #65

Simple. They didn't show up. Xolodno Nov 10 #66

More fucking stupid. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #75

Amazing, isn't it? dpibel Nov 11 #77

Mindblowing indeed. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #80

If you are going to sell your nation and daughters for a dozen eggs TheKentuckian Nov 11 #72

This here... Xolodno Nov 11 #103

You identify where I'm wrong and I will earnestly consider it. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #104

Well, let me put it this way. Xolodno Nov 11 #105

I know full well. I've been homeless for crying out loud. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #106

Understood. And I sympathize. Xolodno Nov 11 #107

Thank you. I feel the argument is they behaved in a justifiable fashion so I'm glad TheKentuckian Nov 11 #108

False. Jobs grew under Biden. yardwork Nov 11 #93

You demonstrated my point perfectly. Xolodno Nov 11 #99

You didn't say anything about low wages. yardwork Nov 11 #100

I have in other posts... Xolodno Nov 11 #101

What bugs me about that claim is that it was really the stupid misogyny, the hatred of women Hekate Nov 10 #67

You are 100% correct. oasis Nov 10 #68

Sometimes, I am embarrassed to be a white woman. BlueKentuckyGirl Nov 11 #71

A sister from another mister. BattleRow Nov 11 #73

economy, racism, misogyny, other bigotries... Kali Nov 11 #74

"all about the Economy" is just racist misogynistic code for... MrWowWow Nov 11 #79

Guessing nobody saw the NPR interview Friday Ontheboundry Nov 11 #83

Of course it was "the economy stupid" FBaggins Nov 11 #84

They are much more stupid than racist or sexist. TheKentuckian Nov 11 #110

The Canadian British Economist DAngelo136 Nov 11 #85

It's not about the economy. In 3 months were going to be hearing that the economy is great. n/t D23MIURG23 Nov 11 #86

By the end of January MAGA will be bragging to beat the band TheKentuckian Nov 11 #111

Not the economy Linda ladeewolf Nov 11 #87

Just a question bdamomma Nov 11 #88

Of course! yardwork Nov 11 #92

The threat of Trump's tariffs is already impacting how businesses operate, steering money away from bonuses and raises LetMyPeopleVote Nov 11 #94

Not buying the economy either. Sexism/racism. 58Sunliner Nov 11 #95

It WASN'T The Economy PaulnFortWorth Nov 11 #96

IN MY BRAIN It was All About National Security , Trump wanted the Office & the Office wanted bonniebgood Nov 11 #97

Democrats lost the vote of people making under $50k for the first time iemanja Nov 11 #98

Of course Opbrg Nov 11 #102

It was NEVER about "the economy" Blue_Tires Nov 11 #109