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alarimer

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23. They see things incorrectly, though.

Reply to bearsfootball516 (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:30 PM

Nov 10

EVERY single thing the Republicans tell the public are LIES. There is no crime wave by immigrants (they are more law-abiding than we are), inflation is not caused by any BIden policy (it is caused by corporate greed).

But you are right, messaging should be better. I don't know how you counteract the firehouse of flat-out LIES, though.

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I think sometimes, as Democrats, we get stuck in our own liberal bubble [View all] bearsfootball516 Nov 10 OP

Trump voters are not hurting. Yavin4 Nov 10 #1

I"m not talking about people buying new Ford F150s. bearsfootball516 Nov 10 #2

200% this. And there are people legitimately hurting. Alice B. Nov 10 #20

Obviously I wasn't present for those conversations. But spooky3 Nov 10 #59

Most of those people voted for Kamala Yavin4 Nov 10 #26

Ford sales have declined in the past year Kaleva Nov 10 #4

A one month uptick. Igel Nov 10 #13

Actually our voters are more likely to be not hurting DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 10 #15

Large metro urban voters vote Democrat Yavin4 Nov 10 #27

If you look at the exit polls Trump voters tend to be poorer Jk23 Nov 10 #39

White median household income is $89K. Black median household income is $6.5K Yavin4 Nov 10 #41

I'm assuming your decimal points in the wrong place there Jk23 Nov 10 #44

NOPE!!! See for yourself. Yavin4 Nov 10 #45

Okay I looked at it it says 56,000. Jk23 Nov 10 #47

Okay. My bad. Yavin4 Nov 10 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author spooky3 Nov 10 #53

Also Rich whites did go for Harris Jk23 Nov 10 #46

Yes. Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #3

Your honesty, analysis and empathy TheProle Nov 10 #37

You're too kind! Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #48

Best wishes. Hang in there and keep the flame burning TheProle Nov 10 #49

I'm struggling to make ends meet. What is Chump giving the uberwealthy tax cuts, TheKentuckian Nov 10 #5

Thank you! Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #28

You're welcome! TheKentuckian Nov 10 #32

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #6

Thank you, this is exactly right. bearsfootball516 Nov 10 #8

All well and good, but they are moonscape Nov 10 #9

Bingo! FUX in every auto service dept, medical waiting rooms ... propaganda is why they voted for him. LSparkle Nov 10 #58

"I am not being defeatist here, but the problem is not a DU bubble." ancianita Nov 10 #61

That's part of it, certainly. Arthur_Frain Nov 10 #12

I say, let them learn the hard way. LisaL Nov 10 #17

10 million "they" were "us" in 2020. TheProle Nov 10 #40

We fucking have trouble because the media twists our words and kisses his dumbass! Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #29

Nonsense. Chump has only offered inflationary policies. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #33

+100,000,000........ oasis Nov 10 #34

I agree with this alarimer Nov 10 #25

Persuadable swing voters were deceived Ndp5 Nov 10 #56

Remember Bill Clinton's line: "I feel your pain" that helped him beat Bush Sr. andym Nov 10 #7

100 days krkaufman Nov 10 #22

The problem is Harris's plans actually cost her votes Jk23 Nov 10 #42

What bright ideas do these Hispanic voters have? kansasobama Nov 10 #57

The better response is to have an actual economy-oriented left in this country Prairie Gates Nov 10 #10

Honestly sounds like someone in thrall to RW media krkaufman Nov 10 #21

I think it's called republicans Keepthesoulalive Nov 10 #31

The identity politics is like the soft on crime policies Jk23 Nov 10 #43

Same with gas. We're pumping record amounts of oil NickB79 Nov 10 #11

I don't vote based on the economy. LuvLoogie Nov 10 #14

Many people here think it was just racism and misogyny. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #16

Let's reflect. No excuses, just keep in mind some offered won't be tolerated either. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #35

So there's another vote for "we did everything perfectly" BannonsLiver Nov 10 #38

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #18

And there's one problem... krkaufman Nov 10 #19

They see things incorrectly, though. alarimer Nov 10 #23

What makes you think people here aren't experiencing what you describe? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 10 #24

Saying we are going to crack down on price doc03 Nov 10 #30

It KILLS the Chump prescriptions of tariffs and tax cuts for those richer than gods. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #36

If by bubble you mean not voting for a rapist then chowder66 Nov 10 #51

I get it. Your angry. Disappointed oldmanlynn Nov 10 #52

I heard Harris articulate your third paragraph, in multiple speeches. spooky3 Nov 10 #54

Yes but Trump cannot bring down grocery prices kansasobama Nov 10 #55

We're not in a bubble, they are radical noodle Nov 10 #60

Take away the economic anxiety and... Ndp5 Nov 10 #64

No, of course we can't ban Fox or anything else radical noodle Nov 11 #65

why do we need to hear what Trump was selling in his campaign and republicans were eating up like dog food? bigtree Nov 10 #62

Those explanations will do nothing when you are competing JCMach1 Nov 10 #63

I live in a bubble. Abolishinist Nov 11 #66