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alarimer

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25. I agree with this

Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:38 PM

Nov 10

Any postmortem of the election has to be honest. We cannot simply cheerlead about how great the campaign was. It was missing something. Lots of us have ideas about what that was and they are probably all correct at some level.

But perhaps the largest problem is the lies that Republicans are allowed to spew and we cannot counteract (such as that inflation was Biden's fault) because you simply cannot counteract lies with the truth. It does not work.

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I think sometimes, as Democrats, we get stuck in our own liberal bubble [View all] bearsfootball516 Nov 10 OP

Trump voters are not hurting. Yavin4 Nov 10 #1

I"m not talking about people buying new Ford F150s. bearsfootball516 Nov 10 #2

200% this. And there are people legitimately hurting. Alice B. Nov 10 #20

Obviously I wasn't present for those conversations. But spooky3 Nov 10 #59

Most of those people voted for Kamala Yavin4 Nov 10 #26

Ford sales have declined in the past year Kaleva Nov 10 #4

A one month uptick. Igel Nov 10 #13

Actually our voters are more likely to be not hurting DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 10 #15

Large metro urban voters vote Democrat Yavin4 Nov 10 #27

If you look at the exit polls Trump voters tend to be poorer Jk23 Nov 10 #39

White median household income is $89K. Black median household income is $6.5K Yavin4 Nov 10 #41

I'm assuming your decimal points in the wrong place there Jk23 Nov 10 #44

NOPE!!! See for yourself. Yavin4 Nov 10 #45

Okay I looked at it it says 56,000. Jk23 Nov 10 #47

Okay. My bad. Yavin4 Nov 10 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author spooky3 Nov 10 #53

Also Rich whites did go for Harris Jk23 Nov 10 #46

Yes. Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #3

Your honesty, analysis and empathy TheProle Nov 10 #37

You're too kind! Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #48

Best wishes. Hang in there and keep the flame burning TheProle Nov 10 #49

I'm struggling to make ends meet. What is Chump giving the uberwealthy tax cuts, TheKentuckian Nov 10 #5

Thank you! Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #28

You're welcome! TheKentuckian Nov 10 #32

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #6

Thank you, this is exactly right. bearsfootball516 Nov 10 #8

All well and good, but they are moonscape Nov 10 #9

Bingo! FUX in every auto service dept, medical waiting rooms ... propaganda is why they voted for him. LSparkle Nov 10 #58

"I am not being defeatist here, but the problem is not a DU bubble." ancianita Nov 10 #61

That's part of it, certainly. Arthur_Frain Nov 10 #12

I say, let them learn the hard way. LisaL Nov 10 #17

10 million "they" were "us" in 2020. TheProle Nov 10 #40

We fucking have trouble because the media twists our words and kisses his dumbass! Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #29

Nonsense. Chump has only offered inflationary policies. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #33

+100,000,000........ oasis Nov 10 #34

I agree with this alarimer Nov 10 #25

Persuadable swing voters were deceived Ndp5 Nov 10 #56

Remember Bill Clinton's line: "I feel your pain" that helped him beat Bush Sr. andym Nov 10 #7

100 days krkaufman Nov 10 #22

The problem is Harris's plans actually cost her votes Jk23 Nov 10 #42

What bright ideas do these Hispanic voters have? kansasobama Nov 10 #57

The better response is to have an actual economy-oriented left in this country Prairie Gates Nov 10 #10

Honestly sounds like someone in thrall to RW media krkaufman Nov 10 #21

I think it's called republicans Keepthesoulalive Nov 10 #31

The identity politics is like the soft on crime policies Jk23 Nov 10 #43

Same with gas. We're pumping record amounts of oil NickB79 Nov 10 #11

I don't vote based on the economy. LuvLoogie Nov 10 #14

Many people here think it was just racism and misogyny. BannonsLiver Nov 10 #16

Let's reflect. No excuses, just keep in mind some offered won't be tolerated either. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #35

So there's another vote for "we did everything perfectly" BannonsLiver Nov 10 #38

Post removed Post removed Nov 10 #18

And there's one problem... krkaufman Nov 10 #19

They see things incorrectly, though. alarimer Nov 10 #23

What makes you think people here aren't experiencing what you describe? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 10 #24

Saying we are going to crack down on price doc03 Nov 10 #30

It KILLS the Chump prescriptions of tariffs and tax cuts for those richer than gods. TheKentuckian Nov 10 #36

If by bubble you mean not voting for a rapist then chowder66 Nov 10 #51

I get it. Your angry. Disappointed oldmanlynn Nov 10 #52

I heard Harris articulate your third paragraph, in multiple speeches. spooky3 Nov 10 #54

Yes but Trump cannot bring down grocery prices kansasobama Nov 10 #55

We're not in a bubble, they are radical noodle Nov 10 #60

Take away the economic anxiety and... Ndp5 Nov 10 #64

No, of course we can't ban Fox or anything else radical noodle Nov 11 #65

why do we need to hear what Trump was selling in his campaign and republicans were eating up like dog food? bigtree Nov 10 #62

Those explanations will do nothing when you are competing JCMach1 Nov 10 #63

I live in a bubble. Abolishinist Nov 11 #66