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122. Yes but the point being they delay

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Mon Nov 11, 2024, 01:16 AM

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the implementation of approved ballot measures sometimes by years.

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When congress tries to cut Social Security [View all] videohead5 Nov 7 OP

Meanwhile hubby and i will each lose 1 third of our social security making us homeless at 75years old Trueblue1968 Nov 7 #1

Worse enid602 Nov 7 #11

why are you losing 1/3 Tickle Nov 8 #86

The number I hear going around is a 30% reduction in SS. Intractable Nov 8 #108

What are you going to do if they don't? hamsterjill Nov 9 #116

They do not give a fuck Aviation Pro Nov 7 #2

Yeah, they have been gunning for SS since the early 90s Cosmocat Nov 8 #87

Actually, we shouldn't fight it Aviation Pro Nov 8 #89

I agree the sentiment generally Cosmocat Nov 8 #90

I'm willing to let drmeow Nov 8 #98

They won't care. Island Blue Nov 7 #3

That is true, but it was also a mistake to rely on a Supreme Court Decision from 1970s Silent Type Nov 7 #5

True. Island Blue Nov 7 #7

Sadly, the votes were never there GoreWon2000 Nov 7 #14

Ironically kwolf68 Nov 7 #25

I totally agree GoreWon2000 Nov 7 #27

I heard that Thomas and Tickle Nov 7 #50

Seems to be the plan La Coliniere Nov 7 #77

They probably will. GoreWon2000 Nov 9 #112

Agreed. GoreWon2000 Nov 9 #113

Shoulda coulda woulda..... LakeArenal Nov 7 #80

Remember folks said that about Roe v wade ? nini Nov 7 #4

That was SCOTUS videohead5 Nov 7 #8

True but it's an indication of where all of this is going nini Nov 7 #13

Not really. They are directly accountable to their constituents. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #22

Like You Said, Not Directly SoCalDavidS Nov 8 #102

Most of the state ballot measures actually have passed GoreWon2000 Nov 7 #16

All across the country there are examples moniss Nov 7 #59

The state ballot measures will get wiped out at the federal level GoreWon2000 Nov 9 #111

Quite possibly but I mention the state moniss Nov 9 #115

Dem state attorney generals GoreWon2000 Nov 10 #117

Yes indeed and that is important but moniss Nov 10 #118

The dem attorney generals will fight such anti-democracy shenanigans GoreWon2000 Nov 10 #121

Yes but the point being they delay moniss Nov 11 #122

Hopefully the pro choice measures are on stronger legal ground GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #123

All such fights end with who? Yavin4 Nov 11 #127

My hunch is the country won't take it very well. GoreWon2000 Nov 11 #129

Those congress people videohead5 Nov 7 #6

Eloon will sell us his expected pain. bucolic_frolic Nov 7 #9

Eloon will fail. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #23

I thought this issue should have been featured as THE Project 2025 issue - Earthrise Nov 7 #10

AARP whitewashed Trump just like the Main$tream media and Big $ocial Media. Tommymac Nov 7 #29

If they hold to their plans, then yes we will misanthrope Nov 7 #46

A lot of families will have to, maybe, make room for their elderly ........................ Lovie777 Nov 7 #12

deleted snpsmom Nov 7 #35

I'm already there Lifeafter70 Nov 7 #81

Military pensions might be sacrosanct. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 7 #82

Military pensions might be qazplm135 Nov 11 #130

That's awful. I hope things work out for you. Frank D. Lincoln Nov 11 #133

My parents are both MAGA NickB79 Nov 9 #110

Making the unthinkable thinkable is the goal lostnfound Nov 7 #15

No, they won't. These pols will never be elected ever again. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #24

What election? k55f5r Nov 7 #84

THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT WE THE PEOPLE THINK Skittles Nov 7 #17

Is raising the age from 62 ot 63.5 for those born after 1990... really a cut? WarGamer Nov 7 #18

ANY time the retirement age is raised Skittles Nov 7 #33

Cuts for people born after 1990 only results in cuts for people born after 1990. Mariana Nov 7 #36

yeah OK Skittles Nov 7 #38

None of that is about people who are already receiving benefits. Mariana Nov 7 #55

like I have said Skittles Nov 7 #72

for all? I'm eligible in a couple years... how will my son taking SS 18 months later in 2060 affect my benefit? WarGamer Nov 7 #39

I like to think we care more than just about ourselves Skittles Nov 7 #41

The older Trump voters will probably jump up and down with glee Mariana Nov 7 #57

I do get the feeling Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #75

They hate everyone, reflecting Trump's sadism Captain Zero Nov 7 #79

You're rIght. It won't affect your benefits at all. Mariana Nov 7 #56

Raising the retirement age does not have any affect, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 7 #62

Calculate how much more you will receive by colorado_ufo Nov 7 #63

Most people will live a lot longer than they expect. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 7 #73

I've done the calculations Jimbo S Nov 8 #92

And remain in good health. colorado_ufo Nov 8 #93

This is where my hubby and I are at... Farmgirl1961 Nov 8 #101

Until something live covid comes along. n/t Yavin4 Nov 11 #128

Of course.. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #120

They denied this over and over again during the campaign. Their supporters believed them. There will be protests Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 7 #19

You don't understand. The 2026 election will not be FAIR. Tommymac Nov 7 #31

it is very disturbing that even some DUers don't get this Skittles Nov 7 #43

Quite correct misanthrope Nov 7 #49

This is the truth. Read it and weep, people. defacto7 Nov 7 #68

I agree. And call me a tin foil hat wearer... Farmgirl1961 Nov 8 #103

deleted snpsmom Nov 7 #37

Their own supporters rely on SS and Medicare, too geniph Nov 7 #20

Arizona and Florida also, with huge numbers of retirees. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #26

once again Skittles Nov 7 #44

They will when the guillotines come out geniph Nov 7 #51

This is a different century defacto7 Nov 7 #70

How do you register to vote without an address? misanthrope Nov 7 #52

They voted for it in the red states JustAnotherGen Nov 7 #69

Just in case one needs this dweller Nov 8 #106

In the end, they won't touch it. They know better. n/t valleyrogue Nov 7 #21

I don't think they know better. I don't think they know anything. hatrack Nov 7 #30

America knew what we were voting for world wide wally Nov 8 #94

you really do not get it Skittles Nov 7 #48

Just like Roe. Scrivener7 Nov 7 #54

The America we knew is gone JustAnotherGen Nov 7 #71

The GQP takes away healthcare, Social Security ....................... Lovie777 Nov 7 #28

they don't care about voting Skittles Nov 7 #45

They will work everything at once so it is hard to focus resistance JCMach1 Nov 7 #32

They won't "cut" Social Security Metaphorical Nov 7 #34

This seems more realistic that they are going to try to privatize SSN and sell it Jspur Nov 7 #40

BINGO Skittles Nov 7 #47

EXACTLY Raven123 Nov 7 #58

Any timeline speculation on the cratering? moonscape Nov 8 #95

Gut Feel Metaphorical Nov 8 #97

The will just say "Sorry no money left for that" after sending a few billion to Israel and Putin to help bail them out LiberalArkie Nov 7 #42

Republicans will privatize Social Security and Medicare dlk Nov 7 #53

I would like to take a moment Mr.Bee Nov 7 #60

Project 2025 dweller Nov 8 #104

They said the same thing about abortion Fearless Nov 7 #61

They won't do it directly. progressoid Nov 7 #64

With all three branches of government, they think Emile Nov 7 #66

And remind those FUCKING BASTARDS that it is OUR MONEY!! OURS!!! niyad Nov 7 #65

Things are different now. patphil Nov 7 #67

Social Security, Medicare, ACA...all are popular among all voters Tribetime Nov 7 #74

So are veteran's disability benefits qazplm135 Nov 7 #78

They haven't cared yet. Faux pas Nov 7 #76

Once they make it so voting doesn't matter anymore though Diraven Nov 7 #83

Inflation and Bidenomics greymattermom Nov 8 #85

I think they bank on Americans being docile weaklings Dem4life1234 Nov 8 #88

If they try--- I hope it burns up more than their phones. Jack Valentino Nov 8 #91

They will do it like they tried to do it last time, by going after the FICA tax travelingthrulife Nov 8 #96

Look, Musk needs another tax cut. Yavin4 Nov 8 #99

They have a mandate. Besides, their propaganda machine Emile Nov 8 #100

And? Miguelito Loveless Nov 8 #105

We need to all scream bloody murder. raccoon Nov 8 #107

They intend to crash the economy first, to make the unthinkable thinkable. Nt lostnfound Nov 9 #109

Trump is copying Herbert Hoover to a tee. Hoover Emile Nov 9 #114

I'm about 8 years from retiring... Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #119

They have no plans to cut SSA. Jacson6 Nov 11 #124

This could be. Medicare and Soc Security will be unable to pay full benefits soon. CousinIT Nov 11 #132

This will be the eye opener for the republican base. republianmushroom Nov 11 #125

They launched a violent attack on the US capitol in broad daylight. Yavin4 Nov 11 #126

One of Rebl2 Nov 11 #131

That was then. This is now. -misanthroptimist Nov 11 #134