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DAngelo136

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85. The Canadian British Economist
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 08:55 AM
Nov 2024

Umair Haque broke this all down, in an article, that was linked to here in DU, 4 years ago titled: America’s Problem is That White People Want It to Be a Failed State Can America Solve the Problem of the White American Voter? Published in
Eudaimonia and Co Nov 1, 2020

He wrote the following:

"White Americans want America to be a failed state — and that is its fundamental, deep, and long standing problem. That is how America ended up here — more than half a century of white hostility to any kind of social progress whatsoever — which resulted in social collapse, and culminated in Trumpism. White people made America a failed state."

America’s problem is that white Americans as a social group, its majority social group, want America to be a failed state. They don’t want to live in a modern, civilized democracy, and never have.



Who voted, over and over again, to have worse lives? No healthcare, retirement, affordable education, childcare — no public goods of any kind whatsoever? White Americans did. What the? The question baffles the world. Why would anyone choose a worse life? The answer is that white Americans would not accept a society of true equals. “I won’t pay for those dirty, filthy peoples’ educations, healthcare, retirements! Why, their grandparents were my grandpappy’s slaves!” White Americans chose to retain power, supremacy, superiority, even in a failing society. They chose staying on top of decline and ruin, rather than prospering as equals.

It confounds people from all over the world. "How?" "Why?" they ask. The reason is very, very obvious.
White Americans are the rich world’s most hostile, ignorant, violent, cruel, and selfish social group — by a very long way. “Voting conservative” after all doesn’t mean nearly the same thing in Europe or Canada. There, even conservative parties agree on the basics — people should have healthcare, education, retirement, that the only point of the public purse isn’t endless war and death machines. Conservatism in America is off the charts, and so “voting” that way carries a very different meaning. It means that White Americans are the rich world’s most regressive, ignorant, and self-destructive political bloc — by such a long way that they might as well not be in the rich world at all.(ibid)


This is the fundamental blind spot that Rev. Barber, Bernie Sanders, every so called "progressive", Liberal and yes, even Leftists refuse to see.
When pundits talk about "messaging", the only message that white Americans will ever respond to will be the repeal of the Voting Rights Act. That's what it would take. LBJ KNEW what was going to happen when he signed the bill in 1964 that the Democrats would lose the South for at least a generation; that's what Nixon's Southern Strategy was all about. And dammit, it worked. "It's the RACISM and now the MISOGYNY!"

The economy is the fig leaf rationale that covers the actual reason. Because white Americans' self image of themselves contradicts their very ugly actions, they gaslight themselves and others into believing the lie. But, actions speak louder than words, don't they?

Since 1964, no Democrat has won the majority of white votes. Now, what politically seismic event happened in 1964? Look at the voting patterns
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/what-about-white-voters/
Hello?

W.E.B. DuBois, who was a Socialist, who read Marx, observed that white Americans do not identify along class lines but racial ones:
"It must be remembered that the white group of laborers, while they received a low wage, were compensated in part by a sort of public and psychological wage. They were given public deference and titles of courtesy because they were white. They were admitted freely with all classes of white people to public functions, public parks, and the best schools. The police were drawn from their ranks, and the courts, dependent upon their votes, treated them with such leniency as to encourage lawlessness. Their vote selected public officials, and while this had small effect upon the economic situation, it had great effect upon their personal treatment and the deference shown them. White schoolhouses were the best in the community, and conspicuously placed, and they cost anywhere from twice to ten times as much per capita as the colored schools. The newspapers specialized on news that flattered the poor whites and almost utterly ignored the Negro except in crime and ridicule."From "Black Reconstruction in America: An Essay Toward a History of the Part Which Black Folk Played in the Attempt to Reconstruct Democracy in America, 1860–1880" (1935)
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What did LBJ say? "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
And they did, didn't they? He was basically robbing them and they voted for him anyway.

Face it, America. This is a country of white supremacists, misogynists, bigots and racists. White America has spoken. They chose, consistently, white male mediocrity over female and Black excellence. Black folks, especially Black women are done with maintaining the charade that Americans are serious about peace and prosperity. White Americans got us into this, only white Americans can fix it. But y'all got to get over your delusions, first.

“If you don't understand white supremacy/racism ,everything that you do understand will only confuse you..”― Neely Fuller, Jr., The United Independent Compensatory Code System Concept a textbook/workbook for Thought, Speech and/or Action for Victims of Racism







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I think it's hard to pin it on any one thing. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #1
I agree that it wasn't just one thing, but I'm reading a lot of analyses Ocelot II Nov 2024 #4
It wasn't just one thing. It also wasn't just one constituency. InstantGratification Nov 2024 #18
Yes I don't buy the economy claim Tribetime Nov 2024 #70
I agree except... Trust_Reality Nov 2024 #89
I just want to say godblessyou for this post n/t BaronChocula Nov 2024 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Nov 2024 #16
Don't forget racism! Native Nov 2024 #17
it was the misogeny and the racsim Ray Bruns Nov 2024 #38
This white man is proud to have went for Harris EnergizedLib Nov 2024 #2
It wasn't the economy. That was an excuse. CousinIT Nov 2024 #3
Bingo. My point exactly. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #5
+1, the German economy was doing relatively well when Nazi part won 37% or parliament. The excuse that it was the ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #7
JoJo from Jerz's mom didn't raise no idjits. soldierant Nov 2024 #41
☝🏾THIS!!☝🏾 Robison was ***JUST LIKE*** Trump without crime and MAGA dropped him like a hot rock and he lost !! uponit7771 Nov 2024 #6
"She is for they/them. He is for you." Duncan Grant Nov 2024 #8
"Culture war" krkaufman Nov 2024 #24
I like the way you put it Ohioboy Nov 2024 #76
They ran that gender-affirming care for incarcerated trans people commercial relentlessly. Shermann Nov 2024 #34
I have this feeling that MAGA, having got what they wanted ismnotwasm Nov 2024 #9
Repugs are the dogs that caught the car again. Trouble is they won't know what allegorical oracle Nov 2024 #15
I JUST sent that to a friend; "they caught the car, lets see what they do with it" hootman Nov 2024 #32
True. But we are here to point out, that this, is exactly what they voted for ismnotwasm Nov 2024 #36
I think it's the latter. calimary Nov 2024 #90
We need to wear T-shirts that say "Don't blame me for this, I voted for Kamala" FakeNoose Nov 2024 #31
Yup! ismnotwasm Nov 2024 #35
My neighboor flew a big ass flag that read " don't blame me , I voted for trump" during President Biden's term. debm55 Nov 2024 #42
It wasn't the economy Jrsygrl96 Nov 2024 #10
I think it's a lot more than Black and Latino men. Katinfl Nov 2024 #30
White women as well DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #40
Black Men voted for Harris in very similar percentages as they voted for Biden (77% vs 79%) Wiz Imp Nov 2024 #46
Don't say Black men. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #62
I'm not buying that entirely Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #82
If Trump was non white like the crazy North Carolina candidate JI7 Nov 2024 #11
"It's the economy, stupid." Carville's mantra. cachukis Nov 2024 #12
"No, it's about YOUR economy, stupid. Mine is really good!" Jit423 Nov 2024 #55
I think you missed my point. cachukis Nov 2024 #57
Yes, that explanation doesn't sit well with me Mike 03 Nov 2024 #13
white women who voted for him were probably living lives of quiet desperation of some degree, IMO. CTyankee Nov 2024 #19
White women vote white first, class second, women third. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #58
I know SO many white women who voted for him & I cant understand it. hootman Nov 2024 #33
I don't think it was ALL about the economy, but I do think it was PARTLY about the economy In It to Win It Nov 2024 #14
My current favorite quote: TxGuitar Nov 2024 #20
The economy was a cover story for Russia & Elon Musk's attack on our voting systems. Botany Nov 2024 #21
Just like we saw in 2016 much of their economic anxiety is already receding TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #22
I think the answer is pretty obvious..this country is too racist and misogynistic to elect a FE president PortTack Nov 2024 #23
Economists overwhelmingly agree Trump's policies will INCREASE inflation Martin Eden Nov 2024 #25
Democrats never defended the economy strongly enough. kentuck Nov 2024 #26
A brilliant, short piece about what voters were thinking Akakoji Nov 2024 #27
It was misinformation disinformation misinformation disinformation oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #28
Yes, an avalanche of disinformation... Trust_Reality Nov 2024 #91
The Repukes said it was "all about the economy" FakeNoose Nov 2024 #29
40+ years of trickle down economics has poli-junkie Nov 2024 #37
Have to address the stupid part of that Akakoji Nov 2024 #48
The economy is booming PennRalphie Nov 2024 #39
Chump won on a positive message is a tough sell. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #59
One of the other things which played into it DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #43
No, it WASN'T about the economy. And IMO, saying so just B.See Nov 2024 #44
Disagree Akakoji Nov 2024 #49
Well I don't think it was mainly the economy B.See Nov 2024 #56
But What Is The Trump Plan For Cheap Eggs? DallasNE Nov 2024 #45
I'm not buying the economy BS. If that's the case, you have no effin morals, no effin principles tulipsandroses Nov 2024 #47
The bulk of voters vote with what's poli-junkie Nov 2024 #50
It wasn't the economy Dlpger61 Nov 2024 #60
Tariffs, tax cuts for the super rich, austerity, vaccine hokum, 7 trillion of empty debt, mass deportations are going to TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #61
Plus a gazillion. love_katz Nov 2024 #69
It was about inflation and Republican propaganda Emile Nov 2024 #51
Ocelot II FTW. madaboutharry Nov 2024 #52
It was all about maintaining the white anglo male power base GoreWon2000 Nov 2024 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Nov 2024 #54
It isn't about the ones who voted for Harris. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #63
"And that is largely pocketbook economy and Gaza" TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #78
It was about the economy, get over it. Xolodno Nov 2024 #64
"Get over it"? Ocelot II Nov 2024 #65
Simple. They didn't show up. Xolodno Nov 2024 #66
More fucking stupid. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #75
Amazing, isn't it? dpibel Nov 2024 #77
Mindblowing indeed. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #80
If you are going to sell your nation and daughters for a dozen eggs TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #72
This here... Xolodno Nov 2024 #103
You identify where I'm wrong and I will earnestly consider it. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #104
Well, let me put it this way. Xolodno Nov 2024 #105
I know full well. I've been homeless for crying out loud. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #106
Understood. And I sympathize. Xolodno Nov 2024 #107
Thank you. I feel the argument is they behaved in a justifiable fashion so I'm glad TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #108
False. Jobs grew under Biden. yardwork Nov 2024 #93
You demonstrated my point perfectly. Xolodno Nov 2024 #99
You didn't say anything about low wages. yardwork Nov 2024 #100
I have in other posts... Xolodno Nov 2024 #101
What bugs me about that claim is that it was really the stupid misogyny, the hatred of women Hekate Nov 2024 #67
You are 100% correct. oasis Nov 2024 #68
Sometimes, I am embarrassed to be a white woman. BlueKentuckyGirl Nov 2024 #71
A sister from another mister. BattleRow Nov 2024 #73
economy, racism, misogyny, other bigotries... Kali Nov 2024 #74
"all about the Economy" is just racist misogynistic code for... MrWowWow Nov 2024 #79
Guessing nobody saw the NPR interview Friday Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #83
Of course it was "the economy stupid" FBaggins Nov 2024 #84
They are much more stupid than racist or sexist. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #110
The Canadian British Economist DAngelo136 Nov 2024 #85
It's not about the economy. In 3 months were going to be hearing that the economy is great. n/t D23MIURG23 Nov 2024 #86
By the end of January MAGA will be bragging to beat the band TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #111
Not the economy Linda ladeewolf Nov 2024 #87
Just a question bdamomma Nov 2024 #88
Of course! yardwork Nov 2024 #92
The threat of Trump's tariffs is already impacting how businesses operate, steering money away from bonuses and raises LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #94
Not buying the economy either. Sexism/racism. 58Sunliner Nov 2024 #95
It WASN'T The Economy PaulnFortWorth Nov 2024 #96
IN MY BRAIN It was All About National Security , Trump wanted the Office & the Office wanted bonniebgood Nov 2024 #97
Democrats lost the vote of people making under $50k for the first time iemanja Nov 2024 #98
Of course Opbrg Nov 2024 #102
It was NEVER about "the economy" Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #109
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