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ancianita

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74. Good questions. I've asked the same. So far...
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 10:16 AM
Nov 12

Last edited Tue Nov 12, 2024, 11:17 AM - Edit history (3)

here's what I've come up with.

What is Starlink?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink

Obviously, how it works is classified under military contracts. That's something the president and Elon have access to, probably that other countries don't unless they illegally pay Elon, the Privatizer.

Which is why, in the interests of national security (and I think we are in a national security emergency),
I think this sitting president/commander-in-chief should nationalize Starlink and sanction Elon for selling its use to declared hostile foreign powers.

Can it upload and or download data?


Google AI says:
Yes, Starlink can both upload and download data:
Download speeds: Typically between 25 and 220 Mbps, with most users experiencing speeds over 100 Mbps
Upload speeds: Typically between 5 and 20 Mbps

Starlink is a satellite internet service that's designed for rural areas without other high-speed internet options.


Palo Alto Networks says:
https://live.paloaltonetworks.com/t5/general-topics/starlink-failover-fast-download-almost-no-upload-speed/td-p/591283
Download speed is blazing fast, but upload speed through the NGF is almost non-existent, 0-1 mbps.

When I connect to the Starlink router directly, I get download speeds of 50bmps so I know it's not the ISP's fault.

A troubleshooting ping test from the PA NGF web GUI, yields 50-60 percent ping failure.


My oldest son in Australia works for these guys.

Was Starlink being used by the Trump Campaign/Musk/Russia in our elections?


It's a rumor but not publicly confirmed; it might/might not be under investigation. Whether or if it's used is is likely public, but how it works likely is classified.

Is the internet story correct that Starlink was being used only in Swing States?

Is this statement correct?

“So now back to Skylink Musk / Trump and stealing an election. They could have manipulated the results without oversight by bypassing the national election network and using Musk's Skylink communications.”
(Posted by usaf-vet thanx to him/her)


We don't know yet. And the name is incorrect -- it's Starlink, not Skylink.

Would the NSA - FBI - CIA - military intelligence know about or be able to find out about Starlink’s use during our elections?


Read the wikipedia entry to see who Starlink contracts with and who would likely know or be able to find out. It's possible that the NSA knows everything about what happened; that the FBI, only if ordered will investigate what it can find on the ground; that the CIA military intelligence are looking into its use during the election. All of these agencies can send findings to the sitting president.

Can we know about or be able to find out about Starlink’s use during our elections? Only if Biden wants us to.

Was Starlink Trump’s “little secret” he was talking about?


As for the trump/johnson "little secret," that will only matter if an investigation reveals a conspiracy to use Starlink to overturn the popular vote numbers. Could they be tried under military jurisdiction? Maybe, I don't know.


Thanks for asking. This is the best I've come up with...








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Starlink questions [View all] Botany Nov 12 OP
I don't keepthemhonestO Nov 12 #1
Well Marc Elias is working for her campaign gab13by13 Nov 12 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 12 #15
Right keepthemhonestO Nov 12 #65
They are doing it and bragging about it now, gab13by13 Nov 12 #2
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I agree, I think the fact that musk's equipment was used... Think. Again. Nov 12 #11
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Why would "they" allow Musk gab13by13 Nov 12 #22
Good question... Think. Again. Nov 12 #32
Trump regularly speaks with Putin. So he says Autumn Nov 12 #63
Not this year because of health reasons but I have been doing election protection work for 20 years Botany Nov 12 #7
It, like so many other things Trump, doesn't pass... Hugin Nov 12 #29
Thanks Botany Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #79
See post # 22 why would a person, Musk, who has been in touch with Putin multiple times be allowed ... Botany Nov 12 #85
it may show something, it may not. mopinko Nov 12 #27
It's all complete nonsense Abnredleg Nov 12 #3
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It's not a matter of trust Abnredleg Nov 12 #14
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Opinions without facts are worthless Abnredleg Nov 12 #20
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You mean like you are making? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 12 #78
I guess it depends on what you mean by "ok" FBaggins Nov 12 #28
This wouldn't matter if all parties are involved in the wrong-doing. Linda ladeewolf Nov 12 #73
oh, good, paper ballots were chosen so audits and recounts can be done.... Think. Again. Nov 12 #9
Audits are standard in almost states Abnredleg Nov 12 #12
Cool beans. Hopefully they'll get started on that. Think. Again. Nov 12 #18
Now you're being silly Abnredleg Nov 12 #24
Why would the SOS's political affiliation matter... Think. Again. Nov 12 #36
Just saying a Dem doesn't have a motive to conceal Abnredleg Nov 12 #38
I'm questioning whether the indications of foulplay... Think. Again. Nov 12 #48
There are only indications of false conspiracy theories Abnredleg Nov 12 #56
If they don't know how it happened they wouldn't know if there was fraud. travelingthrulife Nov 12 #64
As discussed in 2020, there are multiple layers of security Abnredleg Nov 12 #66
True, we haven't heard from the campaigns, yet. Think. Again. Nov 12 #68
There was a county election... 2naSalit Nov 12 #47
Link please? /nt Abnredleg Nov 12 #58
There were county mismatches Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #81
Audits of any swing state results against ballots... Think. Again. Nov 12 #8
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They are doing audits Abnredleg Nov 12 #16
It's been explained Sympthsical Nov 12 #21
I guess we'll have to wait until we get some answers first though. Think. Again. Nov 12 #25
But audits do not necessarily have to be acted upon.. Think. Again. Nov 12 #23
And they need to check the poll book entries count against yourout Nov 12 #26
Yep, and some places haven't even finished the full count yet. Think. Again. Nov 12 #31
This is all standard procedure Abnredleg Nov 12 #60
People are dodging the obvious question - why would Democrats go along with it? Sympthsical Nov 12 #19
Why would you accuse Democrats of going along with anything? Think. Again. Nov 12 #30
I'm not the one making the accusations - the conspiracy theorists are Sympthsical Nov 12 #51
People are asking for verification of results due to questionable activity. Think. Again. Nov 12 #53
People are doing a lot more than that Sympthsical Nov 12 #59
What more do you see being done by "people"? Think. Again. Nov 12 #70
Comparing DUers honest questions to QAnon is uncalled for. gab13by13 Nov 12 #33
Calling out conspiracy is very called for Sympthsical Nov 12 #39
The 2004 election was stolen, hacked gab13by13 Nov 12 #44
Horses to water, man Sympthsical Nov 12 #49
Have PA's audits been done yet? or any state's audits? Think. Again. Nov 12 #50
What's the rush? Abnredleg Nov 12 #107
I was responding to a post that seemed to suggest... Think. Again. Nov 12 #109
They haven't Abnredleg Nov 12 #111
Yes, the audits have not begun so no issues have surfaced yet. Think. Again. Nov 12 #112
So what was the point of your OP? Abnredleg Nov 12 #113
Audits are not mandatory in every state... Think. Again. Nov 12 #114
If fraud is found they will act Abnredleg Nov 12 #115
What I find most curious... Think. Again. Nov 12 #116
The polls were accurate and the Starlink claim has been debunked Abnredleg Nov 12 #117
The Polls were ACCURATE??? Think. Again. Nov 12 #118
Starlink is a communications carrier. Data sent over it would be routinely encrypted. muriel_volestrangler Nov 12 #35
You mean like the programmer in 2004 gab13by13 Nov 12 #46
No, I have no idea what "routed the information from Ohio to a warehouse in Tennessee" refers to muriel_volestrangler Nov 12 #72
Yes, Republicans Steal Elections annielion Nov 12 #82
Twenty years in software development, and I do not see a way to steal the election at scale Amishman Nov 12 #102
This has been explained 500x already Ontheboundry Nov 12 #37
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Let's just think this thru Ontheboundry Nov 12 #41
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I'm not that new Ontheboundry Nov 12 #42
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I'm asking for actual proof Ontheboundry Nov 12 #54
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You're the one who has been poking and prodding him this entire time - How about you stop harassing them and go? Lancero Nov 12 #61
Look, I'd be the first one to be on your side Ontheboundry Nov 12 #62
Good, let's do the "not terribly hard" work to compare all the totals. Think. Again. Nov 12 #52
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We're pointing out that they are doing audits Abnredleg Nov 12 #67
I believe the audits will have to done after the counting is finished... Think. Again. Nov 12 #69
And? Abnredleg Nov 12 #71
Your post said the audits are being done... Think. Again. Nov 12 #96
But they will be done Abnredleg Nov 12 #97
I think you're fighting all this a little too hard. Think. Again. Nov 12 #103
No - the issue is you aren't making a convincing argument Abnredleg Nov 12 #104
trump won by a very unexpected, surprising even, margin... Think. Again. Nov 12 #105
Both of these points have been refuted Abnredleg Nov 12 #106
I think YOU are tilting the actual windmills. Think. Again. Nov 12 #108
Whatever Abnredleg Nov 12 #110
Good questions. I've asked the same. So far... ancianita Nov 12 #74
Thank you Botany Nov 12 #86
Shared oligarch values -- for global power and control of global wealth. Elon came to the wealthiest ancianita Nov 12 #88
Starlink is an internet service provider. LeftInTX Nov 12 #91
Starlink is not what you think. ancianita Nov 12 #92
Pretty sure satellite is used as an ISP on planes! LeftInTX Nov 12 #93
We don't run all communications through planes, though, do we. No, we don't. ancianita Nov 12 #94
Here is a link. I'm on my phone. And can't copy text. LeftInTX Nov 12 #95
To argue that 5% of Internet service is important is 5% helpful. Maybe that 5% will impact our national security. ancianita Nov 12 #98
I do. But don't have 24/7 to devote to this. LeftInTX Nov 12 #99
Starlink is a communication system Progressive dog Nov 12 #75
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How do you make it believable? Progressive dog Nov 12 #83
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You implied that Progressive dog Nov 12 #87
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if you are here to sell conspiracy theories Progressive dog Nov 12 #90
Starlink is a satellite-based international network that allows subscribers to access the world wide web the same way Martin68 Nov 12 #76
It is so secure that Russia got a few terminals and knew where the Ukraine terminals were, early in the game. LiberalArkie Nov 12 #77
Starlink is an eventual bane to terrestrially based astronomy misanthrope Nov 12 #100
I'm NEVER Giving Another Dime SoCalDavidS Nov 12 #101
FACT FOCUS: Election officials knock down Starlink vote rigging conspiracy theories LetMyPeopleVote Nov 17 #119
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