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Abnredleg

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106. Both of these points have been refuted

Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:54 PM

Nov 12

Trump’s victory was within the margin of error of the polling averages. And Starlink was used by some governments to connect polling sites to state voter registration systems for same day registration, not to connect voting machines to the Internet as some have implied. As to audits, it has been pointed out to you many times that checks and audits are done as part of the certificate process.

You’re tilting at windmills - those who are intimately involved in the campaign aren’t complaining and they’re the ones with the data.

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Starlink questions [View all] Botany Nov 12 OP

I don't keepthemhonestO Nov 12 #1

Well Marc Elias is working for her campaign gab13by13 Nov 12 #4

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Right keepthemhonestO Nov 12 #65

They are doing it and bragging about it now, gab13by13 Nov 12 #2

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I agree, I think the fact that musk's equipment was used... Think. Again. Nov 12 #11

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Why would "they" allow Musk gab13by13 Nov 12 #22

Good question... Think. Again. Nov 12 #32

Trump regularly speaks with Putin. So he says Autumn Nov 12 #63

Not this year because of health reasons but I have been doing election protection work for 20 years Botany Nov 12 #7

It, like so many other things Trump, doesn't pass... Hugin Nov 12 #29

Thanks Botany Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #79

See post # 22 why would a person, Musk, who has been in touch with Putin multiple times be allowed ... Botany Nov 12 #85

it may show something, it may not. mopinko Nov 12 #27

It's all complete nonsense Abnredleg Nov 12 #3

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It's not a matter of trust Abnredleg Nov 12 #14

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Opinions without facts are worthless Abnredleg Nov 12 #20

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You mean like you are making? AZSkiffyGeek Nov 12 #78

I guess it depends on what you mean by "ok" FBaggins Nov 12 #28

This wouldn't matter if all parties are involved in the wrong-doing. Linda ladeewolf Nov 12 #73

oh, good, paper ballots were chosen so audits and recounts can be done.... Think. Again. Nov 12 #9

Audits are standard in almost states Abnredleg Nov 12 #12

Cool beans. Hopefully they'll get started on that. Think. Again. Nov 12 #18

Now you're being silly Abnredleg Nov 12 #24

Why would the SOS's political affiliation matter... Think. Again. Nov 12 #36

Just saying a Dem doesn't have a motive to conceal Abnredleg Nov 12 #38

I'm questioning whether the indications of foulplay... Think. Again. Nov 12 #48

There are only indications of false conspiracy theories Abnredleg Nov 12 #56

If they don't know how it happened they wouldn't know if there was fraud. travelingthrulife Nov 12 #64

As discussed in 2020, there are multiple layers of security Abnredleg Nov 12 #66

True, we haven't heard from the campaigns, yet. Think. Again. Nov 12 #68

There was a county election... 2naSalit Nov 12 #47

Link please? /nt Abnredleg Nov 12 #58

There were county mismatches Farmer-Rick Nov 12 #81

Audits of any swing state results against ballots... Think. Again. Nov 12 #8

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They are doing audits Abnredleg Nov 12 #16

It's been explained Sympthsical Nov 12 #21

I guess we'll have to wait until we get some answers first though. Think. Again. Nov 12 #25

But audits do not necessarily have to be acted upon.. Think. Again. Nov 12 #23

And they need to check the poll book entries count against yourout Nov 12 #26

Yep, and some places haven't even finished the full count yet. Think. Again. Nov 12 #31

This is all standard procedure Abnredleg Nov 12 #60

People are dodging the obvious question - why would Democrats go along with it? Sympthsical Nov 12 #19

Why would you accuse Democrats of going along with anything? Think. Again. Nov 12 #30

I'm not the one making the accusations - the conspiracy theorists are Sympthsical Nov 12 #51

People are asking for verification of results due to questionable activity. Think. Again. Nov 12 #53

People are doing a lot more than that Sympthsical Nov 12 #59

What more do you see being done by "people"? Think. Again. Nov 12 #70

Comparing DUers honest questions to QAnon is uncalled for. gab13by13 Nov 12 #33

Calling out conspiracy is very called for Sympthsical Nov 12 #39

The 2004 election was stolen, hacked gab13by13 Nov 12 #44

Horses to water, man Sympthsical Nov 12 #49

Have PA's audits been done yet? or any state's audits? Think. Again. Nov 12 #50

What's the rush? Abnredleg Nov 12 #107

I was responding to a post that seemed to suggest... Think. Again. Nov 12 #109

They haven't Abnredleg Nov 12 #111

Yes, the audits have not begun so no issues have surfaced yet. Think. Again. Nov 12 #112

So what was the point of your OP? Abnredleg Nov 12 #113

Audits are not mandatory in every state... Think. Again. Nov 12 #114

If fraud is found they will act Abnredleg Nov 12 #115

What I find most curious... Think. Again. Nov 12 #116

The polls were accurate and the Starlink claim has been debunked Abnredleg Nov 12 #117

The Polls were ACCURATE??? Think. Again. Nov 12 #118

Starlink is a communications carrier. Data sent over it would be routinely encrypted. muriel_volestrangler Nov 12 #35

You mean like the programmer in 2004 gab13by13 Nov 12 #46

No, I have no idea what "routed the information from Ohio to a warehouse in Tennessee" refers to muriel_volestrangler Nov 12 #72

Yes, Republicans Steal Elections annielion Nov 12 #82

Twenty years in software development, and I do not see a way to steal the election at scale Amishman Nov 12 #102

This has been explained 500x already Ontheboundry Nov 12 #37

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Let's just think this thru Ontheboundry Nov 12 #41

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I'm not that new Ontheboundry Nov 12 #42

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I'm asking for actual proof Ontheboundry Nov 12 #54

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You're the one who has been poking and prodding him this entire time - How about you stop harassing them and go? Lancero Nov 12 #61

Look, I'd be the first one to be on your side Ontheboundry Nov 12 #62

Good, let's do the "not terribly hard" work to compare all the totals. Think. Again. Nov 12 #52

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We're pointing out that they are doing audits Abnredleg Nov 12 #67

I believe the audits will have to done after the counting is finished... Think. Again. Nov 12 #69

And? Abnredleg Nov 12 #71

Your post said the audits are being done... Think. Again. Nov 12 #96

But they will be done Abnredleg Nov 12 #97

I think you're fighting all this a little too hard. Think. Again. Nov 12 #103

No - the issue is you aren't making a convincing argument Abnredleg Nov 12 #104

trump won by a very unexpected, surprising even, margin... Think. Again. Nov 12 #105

Both of these points have been refuted Abnredleg Nov 12 #106

I think YOU are tilting the actual windmills. Think. Again. Nov 12 #108

Whatever Abnredleg Nov 12 #110

Good questions. I've asked the same. So far... ancianita Nov 12 #74

Thank you Botany Nov 12 #86

Shared oligarch values -- for global power and control of global wealth. Elon came to the wealthiest ancianita Nov 12 #88

Starlink is an internet service provider. LeftInTX Nov 12 #91

Starlink is not what you think. ancianita Nov 12 #92

Pretty sure satellite is used as an ISP on planes! LeftInTX Nov 12 #93

We don't run all communications through planes, though, do we. No, we don't. ancianita Nov 12 #94

Here is a link. I'm on my phone. And can't copy text. LeftInTX Nov 12 #95

To argue that 5% of Internet service is important is 5% helpful. Maybe that 5% will impact our national security. ancianita Nov 12 #98

I do. But don't have 24/7 to devote to this. LeftInTX Nov 12 #99

Starlink is a communication system Progressive dog Nov 12 #75

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How do you make it believable? Progressive dog Nov 12 #83

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You implied that Progressive dog Nov 12 #87

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if you are here to sell conspiracy theories Progressive dog Nov 12 #90

Starlink is a satellite-based international network that allows subscribers to access the world wide web the same way Martin68 Nov 12 #76

It is so secure that Russia got a few terminals and knew where the Ukraine terminals were, early in the game. LiberalArkie Nov 12 #77

Starlink is an eventual bane to terrestrially based astronomy misanthrope Nov 12 #100

I'm NEVER Giving Another Dime SoCalDavidS Nov 12 #101

FACT FOCUS: Election officials knock down Starlink vote rigging conspiracy theories LetMyPeopleVote Nov 17 #119