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119. He did the right thing. What Pelosi is pointing to and in a very public
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 09:17 AM
Nov 2024

manner is that the leadership wanted Biden out of the race. They did not want/expect him to declare Harris by his endorsement and why she said that made it impossible to have any primary. There is speculation as to Biden's motive regarding that endorsement.


No one reason we lost so significantly, but we must consider all of it.

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Damn them, damn them all BluenFLA Nov 2024 #1
Me too XanaDUer2 Nov 2024 #3
Me three. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2024 #57
I doubt he would have won. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #4
I don't think there were any poll numbers showing that Kamala would do any better. LisaL Nov 2024 #32
Sigh...And If Biden lost, we'd asking if we should have gone the other way. No one knows. RoeVWade Nov 2024 #97
Nope. progressoid Nov 2024 #9
My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 2024 #20
He should have convinced Biden to not run at all dansolo Nov 2024 #118
I feel pretty confident that Biden wouldn't have won the election Dorian Gray Nov 2024 #60
I agree. I think he would have lost by more. CrispyQ Nov 2024 #109
I actually still think that's true Deminpenn Nov 2024 #62
I didn't want him pushed out happy feet Nov 2024 #78
if you can, watch the 1st segment of Nicole Wallace's show yesterday, Matthew Dowd made an excellent point Native Nov 2024 #80
I thought it was horrible how they pushed Joe out, tanyev Nov 2024 #89
I totally agree. bif Nov 2024 #113
We can make a pretty good guess based on his really low approval ratings. AkFemDem Nov 2024 #85
Well, as much as I've always loved Clooney, it is hard not to feel conflicted... hlthe2b Nov 2024 #2
It was stupid. It was too late to change course. LisaL Nov 2024 #21
Look at Joe Biden's approval numbers, then look at how voters view Trump. Biden has been light years better than Trump. Doodley Nov 2024 #5
Biden's favorability ratings haven't hit 50 percent since 2021. onenote Nov 2024 #19
I was ready to send Clooney Deep State Witch Nov 2024 #6
He was trying to save this country. Sorry - but he was right. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #7
Right? LisaL Nov 2024 #24
Yes he was right, its pretty obvious AkFemDem Nov 2024 #87
How do you think.. whathehell Nov 2024 #101
of course he was Skittles Nov 2024 #48
Age and public appearance fucked Joe Biden. SharonClark Nov 2024 #11
Why didn't age and public appearance fuck Trump? LisaL Nov 2024 #23
because he is a repuke Skittles Nov 2024 #49
Because NOTHING sticks to Trump Dorian Gray Nov 2024 #61
I believe the inflation factor is missing from your list True Dough Nov 2024 #56
Nancy P. had a hand in it. CentralMass Nov 2024 #39
President Biden had a 39% to 41% approval rating in exit polls. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2024 #8
What is Trump's rating? LisaL Nov 2024 #27
"Major backlash" by social media idiots? SharonClark Nov 2024 #10
Of course Clooney doesn't care. LisaL Nov 2024 #22
Biden runs in 2016 kwolf68 Nov 2024 #12
He was also mourning the loss of his son Beau Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2024 #14
I agree. Full stop. I thought Joe Biden would have ran in 2016. In It to Win It Nov 2024 #52
The odds were against either Biden or Clinton in 2016 MichMan Nov 2024 #88
The backlash against Clonoey is deserved regardless of Biden's approval rating standingtall Nov 2024 #13
👆 CentralMass Nov 2024 #36
I Agreed With Clooney Florida Dem Nov 2024 #15
So why didn't he pen a similar Op-Ed about Trump? LisaM Nov 2024 #55
Maybe he should have asked a year ago pstokely Nov 2024 #16
Bingo newdeal2 Nov 2024 #17
Maybe all of us should have asked a year ago too In It to Win It Nov 2024 #28
THIS soandso Nov 2024 #53
I didn't like what he did but Biden would have lost by more JI7 Nov 2024 #18
Biden wouldn't have lost by more. LisaL Nov 2024 #25
He would have lost by less In It to Win It Nov 2024 #26
Well I guess we will never know. LisaL Nov 2024 #29
Running an unpopular candidate, which he was (unfairly and undeservingly), was also stupid In It to Win It Nov 2024 #31
What was Trump's approval rating? LisaL Nov 2024 #33
I imagine they were also bad because Trump never had good approval numbers but Trump was not our candidate. In It to Win It Nov 2024 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #30
Did you see Biden on the Campaign trail in the last few weeks? Jk23 Nov 2024 #91
Honestly flvegan Nov 2024 #35
It was Joe Biden's decision. The party couldn't make Joe Biden step aside. In It to Win It Nov 2024 #37
Party demanding him to step aside forced him to do it. LisaL Nov 2024 #38
Because it wasn't obvious that he should then. A Biden-Trump rematch seemed like anyone's guess In It to Win It Nov 2024 #43
And what was pushing him out so late in a game going to accomplish? LisaL Nov 2024 #45
The same that keeping him would have accomplished, a loss. In It to Win It Nov 2024 #47
Lisa, he obviously wasn't fit for this Dorian Gray Nov 2024 #63
Is Trump fit for this? LisaL Nov 2024 #66
Of course not Dorian Gray Nov 2024 #99
Why do Trump voters think he is fit for this? LisaL Nov 2024 #108
I don't know why Trump voters think he's fit for this Dorian Gray Nov 2024 #117
Reality or "vibes?" emulatorloo Nov 2024 #115
Reality Dorian Gray Nov 2024 #116
Article: Pelosi demonstrated the art of her power by pushing Biden out CentralMass Nov 2024 #41
The ultimate irony. Democrats were afraid that Biden would lose and take down the House with him, LisaL Nov 2024 #44
Well 2020 was an emergency sunnybrook Nov 2024 #54
I truly don't see how any reasonable person saw a man up to a vigorous campaign. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #40
When people look at Trump, do they see a man up to a vigorous campaign? LisaL Nov 2024 #42
You keep repeating this AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #77
Because it pisses me off that all these rules only apply to one side. LisaL Nov 2024 #81
Ask Republicans AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2024 #82
I don't need to ask Republicans. LisaL Nov 2024 #86
Hell no! Chump was unfit as a baseline and now he is falling apart from that unacceptable state TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #93
I'd like Clooney, Rob Reiner, Pelosi and whoever else Hassler Nov 2024 #46
Exactly that was part of the justification for forcing standingtall Nov 2024 #64
My feelings exactly. LisaL Nov 2024 #69
Why should anyone listen to an actor exboyfil Nov 2024 #50
I have to wonder who the millions of Dems were that stayed home voris820 Nov 2024 #51
About 100 million eligible voters couldn't be bothered to vote. The country is getting exactly what it deserves, and it JohnSJ Nov 2024 #59
It wouldn't have mattered. After the disastrous debate President Biden's fate was sealed. The press would never had JohnSJ Nov 2024 #58
There were so many things that Trump has done, LisaL Nov 2024 #65
that spin only works for republicans. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #67
Maybe we should learn how to make spin work for us. LisaL Nov 2024 #68
I don't think it would work with the current media frenzy. They were so focused on Biden's "cognitive abilities", while JohnSJ Nov 2024 #71
I blame media for this debacle as well. LisaL Nov 2024 #72
I agree. They did the same thing against Hillary. I can't remember the exact numbers but the number of negative JohnSJ Nov 2024 #73
He's getting his tax cuts RandiFan1290 Nov 2024 #70
I would blame the donors more than Clooney, it was them that forced Joe out. Mr. Sparkle Nov 2024 #74
George Clooney is a smug asshole SADAR Nov 2024 #75
It will pass................. Lovie777 Nov 2024 #76
Clooney is just another snake like Stephanopolous. live love laugh Nov 2024 #79
If anything this election demonstrated our side also has a problem with donors BluenFLA Nov 2024 #83
And neither Tester nor Brown benefited from Biden dropping out. LisaL Nov 2024 #84
Seriously what did he do wrong Jk23 Nov 2024 #100
Trump appeared "naked" on television day in and day out, but did you hear republican party pointing it out? LisaL Nov 2024 #105
It started with James Carville. After the debate he called dem donors and told them to withhold money for Biden. ellemb Nov 2024 #90
And EauClare Mac Catskill smearing him immediately after the debate. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #104
The biggest reason Harris lost was because voters associated her with an unpopular incumbent President Jose Garcia Nov 2024 #92
I don't think that's the biggest reason that Harris lost. LisaL Nov 2024 #103
Clooney is a dumbass now... Ysabel Nov 2024 #94
Clooney is mega rich XanaDUer2 Nov 2024 #95
We know. LisaL Nov 2024 #106
Exactly XanaDUer2 Nov 2024 #107
The debate PennRalphie Nov 2024 #96
I don't CARE if some people think he was right. I STILL HATE HIM. Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #98
Yep. Both senators lost spectacularly. LisaL Nov 2024 #102
Democratic leadership knew that Biden was in declining both in the polls and in his sharpness Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #110
Were/are they really fans or are they people just bitching ? republianmushroom Nov 2024 #111
It doesn't matter. Emile Nov 2024 #112
Clooney and Pelosi deserve criticism kansasobama Nov 2024 #114
He did the right thing. What Pelosi is pointing to and in a very public Passages Nov 2024 #119
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