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JI7

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30. We need to stop focusing on specific candidates and figures

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:35 PM

Nov 13

the real problem and where we can have some control or influence is in getting out the accomplishments of members of our party.

Biden got a lot done and we should have run ads or anything else which informed people in a simple way. So even with the bad debate people could see his administration had done things and this would have Kamala .

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Oh my! RollingStone commentary; How Joe Biden Squandered His Own Legacy [View all] Hotler Nov 13 OP

I stuck by Joe orangecrush Nov 13 #1

Me too DENVERPOPS Nov 13 #40

We need to stop right now and focus on the SCOTUS and the courts. Encourage Joe to focus on judicial appts. Jit423 Nov 14 #49

I feel vindicated. Elizabeth Warren is on MoJo saying just what a posted moments ago. Jit423 Nov 14 #50

Blaming Biden for the outcome is ridiculous. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #2

Press should take a look at itself as the morons that should be blamed LisaL Nov 13 #5

he certainly did NOT help Skittles Nov 13 #14

Not placing "blame", as I see it orangecrush Nov 13 #20

The article takes a pretty negative view of him. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #37

Disagree mr715 Nov 14 #56

yeah he did. she only had a 100 day campaign and "i don't know her policies" was a pretty common Takket Nov 13 #26

Well, her campaign didn't start under the most optimal conditions so... In It to Win It Nov 13 #32

The press shouldn't be blaming Biden or Democrats for anything oldmanlynn Nov 13 #38

He stepped aside just like this author demanded. LisaL Nov 13 #3

Not blaming him orangecrush Nov 13 #21

Stepped aside in the fourth quarter. He should have never ran for reelection in the first place In It to Win It Nov 13 #33

Clawed away, kicking and screaming mr715 Nov 14 #60

I don't know if anyone different would have emerged from a primary EdmondDantes_ Nov 13 #4

Just like with 2016, the whole mess is an operatic level tragedy roscoeroscoe Nov 13 #6

Great post. orangecrush Nov 13 #22

Damn you Joe Biden for doing a great job Johonny Nov 13 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 13 #10

Hi Sunshine!! Your weather looks rainy and chilly. A DU GP6971 Nov 13 #13

TY for the heads UP! Cha Nov 13 #15

Anytime!! GP6971 Nov 13 #19

Teamwork. Cha Nov 13 #27

I make that 8 minutes between joining DU and going *POOF* Emrys Nov 13 #17

Thanks orangecrush Nov 13 #23

is she back to posting in the library? mopinko Nov 14 #45

I stuck by Joe, too. lees1975 Nov 13 #8

I'm not on the "blame Joe" bus Blue Owl Nov 13 #9

the premise here (that a one term incumbent of the WH) stopdiggin Nov 13 #11

Trying to have it both ways standingtall Nov 13 #12

Hate to admit it mr715 Nov 13 #16

They are grasping.... Blasphemer Nov 13 #18

I'm getting really tired of the Biden bashing. StarryNite Nov 13 #24

Folks need to leave Biden out of this Blue_Tires Nov 13 #25

Are there people still trying to spin 2022 Zeitghost Nov 13 #28

We added a Senate seat, won governorships, narrowly lost the House EnergizedLib Nov 13 #43

We lost the House. nt mr715 Nov 14 #62

I strongly agree with the piece tman Nov 13 #29

rumors are RJ_MacReady Nov 14 #48

That alone tells us that no Dem could have won... nt Blasphemer Nov 14 #54

yeah possibly RJ_MacReady Nov 14 #55

I don't think this election Elessar Zappa Nov 14 #59

We need to stop focusing on specific candidates and figures JI7 Nov 13 #30

Spare us, please... dlk Nov 13 #31

Joe is the only candidate who has beaten the Orange Anus. CentralMass Nov 13 #34

His internal polls were terrible. Elessar Zappa Nov 13 #41

My lying eyes mr715 Nov 14 #57

We will never know. CentralMass Nov 14 #58

HE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD HAVE BEATEN TRUMP Skittles Nov 14 #63

All the party discipline in the world... Ndp5 Nov 13 #35

The original decision to run for reelection was a terrible mistake BeyondGeography Nov 13 #36

Can someone post the nonpaywalled version please? irisblue Nov 13 #39

I just now clicked on it. No paywall. No paywall when I posted it. try again please. nt Hotler Nov 15 #81

I blame the media, I blame the courts, I blame Republicans, MAGAts and law enforcement EnergizedLib Nov 13 #42

What happened? This OP shffts suddenly from '22 and Biden with the choise of... brush Nov 14 #44

He should have known Johnny2X2X Nov 14 #46

Notice, mental status and age Bettie Nov 14 #47

Haberman and Turr Johnny2X2X Nov 14 #52

Sounds like a pundit UpInArms Nov 14 #51

Wrong. crimycarny Nov 14 #53

He outperforms at the State of the Union mr715 Nov 14 #61

So a miracle candidate would have won? crimycarny Nov 14 #67

Always happy to share my crystal ball mr715 Nov 14 #68

Far more impactful things happened than the debate crimycarny Nov 14 #70

"Impactful" mr715 Nov 14 #72

Believe what you want crimycarny Nov 14 #74

Understood and respected. mr715 Nov 14 #75

And yes - crystal ball again mr715 Nov 14 #69

Is this one of those threads... Baggies Nov 14 #64

This is conflicting Baggies Nov 14 #65

I think both can be accomplished. Not all policies are unpopular In It to Win It Nov 15 #78

Not too late to change course Marthe48 Nov 14 #66

Sorry this is a load. Asa13 Nov 14 #71

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #83

Just tell me WHO that would have been flamingdem Nov 14 #73

Now I'm not so sure mr715 Nov 14 #76

Et Tu Rolling Stone? live love laugh Nov 14 #77

Whats that saying about opinions? nt BootinUp Nov 15 #79

Carville was right all along. iemanja Nov 15 #80

In hindsight, Biden should not have sought reelection. An open and competitive primary could have a produced a better tritsofme Nov 15 #82