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Abnredleg

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13. Non binding does not mean ignore

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 09:19 AM

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As has been pointed out before. It just means that it triggers further action such as a full recount or a criminal investigation. It’s nonbinding because the audits are based on sampling so you have to take further steps to confirm any potential problems. The elections in the swing states are run by Dems except for GA so why would it be ignored? Either the state officials or citizens can take it to court and prevent certification if there was fraud. Don’t forget, courts have a lot of leeway to act in these situations.

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Should DU demand a recount? [View all] MadameButterfly Saturday OP

dont they compare the number of ballots to the final number of votes? Blues Heron Saturday #1

Yes Abnredleg Saturday #3

Most of those audits are non-bindibg on the final vote count. Think. Again. Saturday #8

Then what is the pointof an audit? MadameButterfly Saturday #11

Here is a map of which states hold their audits as binding on the outcome... Think. Again. Saturday #16

Non binding does not mean ignore Abnredleg Saturday #13

Actual information on binding audits can be found here: Think. Again. Saturday #17

The results are made pubic as part of the certification process Abnredleg Saturday #14

The rules and regulations, and processes, for audits vary from state to state... Think. Again. Saturday #19

thanks for the link... stillcool Saturday #20

Why do we have to dig out this information???? Farmer-Rick Saturday #29

I'd really like to see Marc Elias' take on all this, at the very least. Think. Again. Saturday #34

I just feel abandoned by Democratic leaders Farmer-Rick Saturday #50

I don't want random audits: I want full audits, and hand counts of all the ballots in the states that trump won. BComplex Saturday #21

I agree.. Think. Again. Saturday #36

I can't respond to how this would have been done MadameButterfly Saturday #10

Even if the Daily Kos article was bullshit, and maybe taken down from the site, or whatever, it still does not BComplex Saturday #22

The CISA does not support this conclusion osteopath6 Saturday #32

Please correct your title, the CISA has NOT made any statement about this conclusion. Think. Again. Saturday #56

Here is a working link to the original Daily Kos article... Think. Again. Saturday #55

Thank-you! Yes, we owe it to our children and the planet to make that demand. polichick Saturday #2

Do we have that power? Surely there would be allies in other venues bucolic_frolic Saturday #4

We should use whatever power our voices DO have. Think. Again. Saturday #6

And here is yet another letter sent to Harris from cybersecurity experts... Think. Again. Saturday #5

Thanks Farmer-Rick Saturday #28

I'm trying to tell myself... Think. Again. Saturday #30

Scary if true osteopath6 Saturday #35

When was that statement made? Was it before the evidence we're discussing surfaced? Think. Again. Saturday #39

Because, if it were compromised, it would make them look bad asm128 Saturday #48

Thanks for posting this and the other letter in a separate OP MadameButterfly Sunday #70

Who would be paying for this,I wonder... Conjuay Saturday #7

The USA? Think. Again. Saturday #9

Who paid for Arizona nd 2x Georgia in 2020? MadameButterfly Saturday #18

Here is the article from substack... Think. Again. Saturday #12

K&R 2naSalit Saturday #15

YES times 1000 CommonHumanity Saturday #23

Marc Elias swears that this election was legit. He is not accounting for the very specific targets that BComplex Saturday #24

Do you have a link to the Elias statement? Think. Again. Saturday #40

Or the guy who has been doing the actual work dismisses the conspiracy EdmondDantes_ Saturday #46

We're supposed to prove fraud before MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #72

I say yes Meowmee Saturday #25

Has Trump ever done anything in his life where he didn't cheat? kentuck Saturday #26

"Every accusation is a confession" GiqueCee Saturday #27

no not yet dotsconnect Saturday #31

Here's the Substack link to his Duty to Warn letter Native Saturday #33

thank you! nt orleans Saturday #45

A party that gave us FAKE ELECTORS cheat? Emile Saturday #37

Only 29 states have laws binding their electors to vote according to the popular vote EX500rider Saturday #38

Yes, demand a recount would be my vote as a DU member since 2008. usaf-vet Saturday #41

I agree that we need to shift focus to LEGAL battles! FirstLight Saturday #42

The quoted "350,000" figure for North Carolina seems wrong muriel_volestrangler Saturday #43

And people can look up the numbers for themselves Sympthsical Saturday #47

The only reference I've seen was an estimate of 600,000 spread among the swing states. Think. Again. Saturday #61

Here's access to that website... Think. Again. Saturday #60

short and simple bdamomma Saturday #44

Yes nt Hope22 Saturday #49

how does du go about calling for a recount? nt orleans Saturday #51

I think it would have to be a letter writing MadameButterfly Saturday #58

i sent a link to that substack "duty to warn letter - to vp harris" orleans Saturday #67

Good. I'll send it and the other letter to some people MadameButterfly Saturday #68

I just wrote to Biden, and Harris for them to ask for recounts in the Swing States, and why. electric_blue68 Saturday #69

If it were Kamala who had received millions of 'Bullet Ballots' Mr.Bee Saturday #52

are we talking about millions of bullet ballots MadameButterfly Saturday #57

absolutely gopiscrap Saturday #53

I was finally able to retrieve a non-paywall link to the Daily Koz article... Think. Again. Saturday #54

Thanks! MadameButterfly Saturday #59

All I'm saying is this... Blue_Tires Saturday #62

Look at whatever Trump is accusing us of and that's what he is doing MadameButterfly Saturday #65

Nobody here can stop any other DUer from doing that Kaleva Saturday #63

The only reason to work together is there is power in numbers MadameButterfly Saturday #64

True but it just takes a few, or even one, to begin the process Kaleva Saturday #66

Absolutely BoRaGard Sunday #71

recount! JoeBydun 8 hrs ago #73