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MadameButterfly

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65. Look at whatever Trump is accusing us of and that's what he is doing

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:08 PM

Nov 16

Given that his whole campaign has been about planning the steal, while playing a lot of golf, do we think he wouldn't have explore every avenue including hacking voting machines? If it's possible as a couple of letters state, then I'll bet he tried it. Whether he succeeded is another story. What is maddening is we are supposed to prove the fraud before we can investigate the evidence.

And quelling our fears is not sufficient cause for a recount, even though this might be that last real election ever.

If the election was honest, Republicans shouldn't object to a recount. It would just cement their win and quash any accusations or conspiracies theories against them. But you know they'd fight it tooth and nail.

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Should DU demand a recount? [View all] MadameButterfly Nov 16 OP

dont they compare the number of ballots to the final number of votes? Blues Heron Nov 16 #1

Yes Abnredleg Nov 16 #3

Most of those audits are non-bindibg on the final vote count. Think. Again. Nov 16 #8

Then what is the pointof an audit? MadameButterfly Nov 16 #11

Here is a map of which states hold their audits as binding on the outcome... Think. Again. Nov 16 #16

Non binding does not mean ignore Abnredleg Nov 16 #13

Actual information on binding audits can be found here: Think. Again. Nov 16 #17

The results are made pubic as part of the certification process Abnredleg Nov 16 #14

The rules and regulations, and processes, for audits vary from state to state... Think. Again. Nov 16 #19

thanks for the link... stillcool Nov 16 #20

Why do we have to dig out this information???? Farmer-Rick Nov 16 #29

I'd really like to see Marc Elias' take on all this, at the very least. Think. Again. Nov 16 #34

I just feel abandoned by Democratic leaders Farmer-Rick Nov 16 #50

I don't want random audits: I want full audits, and hand counts of all the ballots in the states that trump won. BComplex Nov 16 #21

I agree.. Think. Again. Nov 16 #36

I can't respond to how this would have been done MadameButterfly Nov 16 #10

Even if the Daily Kos article was bullshit, and maybe taken down from the site, or whatever, it still does not BComplex Nov 16 #22

The CISA does not support this conclusion osteopath6 Nov 16 #32

Please correct your title, the CISA has NOT made any statement about this conclusion. Think. Again. Nov 16 #56

Here is a working link to the original Daily Kos article... Think. Again. Nov 16 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 16 #2

Do we have that power? Surely there would be allies in other venues bucolic_frolic Nov 16 #4

We should use whatever power our voices DO have. Think. Again. Nov 16 #6

And here is yet another letter sent to Harris from cybersecurity experts... Think. Again. Nov 16 #5

Thanks Farmer-Rick Nov 16 #28

I'm trying to tell myself... Think. Again. Nov 16 #30

Scary if true osteopath6 Nov 16 #35

When was that statement made? Was it before the evidence we're discussing surfaced? Think. Again. Nov 16 #39

Because, if it were compromised, it would make them look bad asm128 Nov 16 #48

Thanks for posting this and the other letter in a separate OP MadameButterfly Nov 17 #70

Who would be paying for this,I wonder... Conjuay Nov 16 #7

The USA? Think. Again. Nov 16 #9

Who paid for Arizona nd 2x Georgia in 2020? MadameButterfly Nov 16 #18

Here is the article from substack... Think. Again. Nov 16 #12

K&R 2naSalit Nov 16 #15

YES times 1000 CommonHumanity Nov 16 #23

Marc Elias swears that this election was legit. He is not accounting for the very specific targets that BComplex Nov 16 #24

Do you have a link to the Elias statement? Think. Again. Nov 16 #40

Or the guy who has been doing the actual work dismisses the conspiracy EdmondDantes_ Nov 16 #46

We're supposed to prove fraud before MadameButterfly Nov 20 #72

I say yes Meowmee Nov 16 #25

Has Trump ever done anything in his life where he didn't cheat? kentuck Nov 16 #26

"Every accusation is a confession" GiqueCee Nov 16 #27

no not yet dotsconnect Nov 16 #31

Here's the Substack link to his Duty to Warn letter Native Nov 16 #33

thank you! nt orleans Nov 16 #45

Thank you for that link! BComplex Nov 21 #74

A party that gave us FAKE ELECTORS cheat? Emile Nov 16 #37

Only 29 states have laws binding their electors to vote according to the popular vote EX500rider Nov 16 #38

Yes, demand a recount would be my vote as a DU member since 2008. usaf-vet Nov 16 #41

I agree that we need to shift focus to LEGAL battles! FirstLight Nov 16 #42

The quoted "350,000" figure for North Carolina seems wrong muriel_volestrangler Nov 16 #43

And people can look up the numbers for themselves Sympthsical Nov 16 #47

The only reference I've seen was an estimate of 600,000 spread among the swing states. Think. Again. Nov 16 #61

Here's access to that website... Think. Again. Nov 16 #60

short and simple bdamomma Nov 16 #44

Yes nt Hope22 Nov 16 #49

how does du go about calling for a recount? nt orleans Nov 16 #51

I think it would have to be a letter writing MadameButterfly Nov 16 #58

i sent a link to that substack "duty to warn letter - to vp harris" orleans Nov 16 #67

Good. I'll send it and the other letter to some people MadameButterfly Nov 16 #68

I just wrote to Biden, and Harris for them to ask for recounts in the Swing States, and why. electric_blue68 Nov 16 #69

If it were Kamala who had received millions of 'Bullet Ballots' Mr.Bee Nov 16 #52

are we talking about millions of bullet ballots MadameButterfly Nov 16 #57

absolutely gopiscrap Nov 16 #53

I was finally able to retrieve a non-paywall link to the Daily Koz article... Think. Again. Nov 16 #54

Thanks! MadameButterfly Nov 16 #59

All I'm saying is this... Blue_Tires Nov 16 #62

Look at whatever Trump is accusing us of and that's what he is doing MadameButterfly Nov 16 #65

Nobody here can stop any other DUer from doing that Kaleva Nov 16 #63

The only reason to work together is there is power in numbers MadameButterfly Nov 16 #64

True but it just takes a few, or even one, to begin the process Kaleva Nov 16 #66

Absolutely BoRaGard Nov 17 #71

recount! JoeBydun Nov 20 #73