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The Wandering Harper

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79. the 3 big ones

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 09:08 PM

Sunday

Oprah
the billionaire governor
the uniformed police officer

and the overall tone came across to me like insubstantial glitz and hype

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Serious qestion: I feel like I'm being gaslit. Where does the perception of "Democratic elitism" come from? [View all] In It to Win It Nov 16 OP

if you support people I hate due to my religious beliefs you are elitist nt msongs Nov 16 #1

From Atlantic to Pacific Ocean, we won 4 states. jimfields33 Nov 16 #10

they know blue states subsidize red states Skittles Nov 16 #2

And now that 32 states are red. The blue states won't be jimfields33 Nov 16 #12

It was invisible. It was sold through churches and MAGA voting lists. bucolic_frolic Nov 16 #3

From the Republican elites that are running the propaganda firehose? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 16 #4

Completely agree. But why are left-leaning people who know better are also saying it? In It to Win It Nov 16 #9

Those that can't see, want to be blind. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 16 #19

Rooted in anti-intellectualism, imho. Duncan Grant Nov 16 #5

That's the best explanation I've seen/heard. Have also wondered about elitism when it's allegorical oracle Nov 16 #23

Or, to put it a little more crudely, soldierant Sunday #74

Interesting original meaning. electric_blue68 Monday #131

Because they play the dumb card and we call them on it. boston bean Nov 16 #6

Elitist used to mean someone (rich) who lived a life so far Tadpole Raisin Nov 16 #7

I completely agree. Republicans now reject science, medicine, education. tulipsandroses Monday #118

Started with Woodrow Wilson. And honestly, before the southern strategy got the parties to flip, haele Nov 16 #8

If you know who the speaker of the house is and what this position does you're in the top 20% of governmental knowledge uponit7771 Nov 16 #11

People smarter than Republicans are. travelingthrulife Nov 16 #13

It is bullshit, spread by some of the MSM talking iidiots. The most elitist is the sociopath, and his hench men. JohnSJ Nov 16 #14

I would agree. What confuses me is people who are on our side also saying it... In It to Win It Nov 16 #15

Are they really on "our" side? That statement is lie. The Democratic Party is NOT shouting "down" to anybody. It is a JohnSJ Nov 16 #20

people "on our side" - TBF Nov 16 #27

David Axelrod, Chris Murphy, a few here on DU post that Democrats do this In It to Win It Nov 16 #35

That is 2 well known people and one low count poster - TBF Nov 16 #37

Ok, I think we're on the same page. Just making sure I wasn't crazy. In It to Win It Nov 16 #41

I think that idea has been there for many years Meowmee Nov 16 #16

Yeah, I've been saying that too about the so-called liberal elite schools In It to Win It Nov 16 #17

The ivy league schools are more like legacy media -- simply have been around a long time. They allegorical oracle Nov 16 #25

They've not only been around a long time, TBF Nov 16 #38

Coastal elites, limousine liberals, celebrity endorsements MaryMagdaline Nov 16 #18

Half the country has less than $400. For an emergency questionseverything Monday #109

They make good money and are highly skilled. MaryMagdaline Monday #114

Elitism is the new term for... S/V Loner Nov 16 #21

DON'T OVERTHINK IT. JEWS! ANTI-SEMITISM. usonian Nov 16 #22

You're asking this question in the wrong space Sympthsical Nov 16 #24

So where is it you hang out when you're not here? Is that where you're recommending the OP go? Hekate Nov 16 #32

I read everywhere Sympthsical Nov 16 #39

It's A Line RobinA Sunday #68

I know two people who voted Trump and they give up when I try to talk politics with them. kerry-is-my-prez Monday #130

If you were, like, supercool dpibel Sunday #86

As a 'coastal elite', Abolishinist Monday #90

Forget it, Jake. It's DUtown. Abolishinist Nov 16 #40

But I have talked with people who leaned toward Trump. Regular ass everyday folks In It to Win It Sunday #55

I'll give you one major example that I've heard a lot of Sympthsical Monday #119

You ARE being gaslit. That's the point. The message comes from republicans who Scrivener7 Nov 16 #26

This. nt TBF Nov 16 #28

It comes from MAGAGOP. About the time I slogged my way thru a graduate degree, I realized... Hekate Nov 16 #29

"Elites" is yet another euphemism... appmanga Nov 16 #30

Sounds about right. "Critical thinking" is a baaaad thing. Hekate Nov 16 #34

Good point. Get rid of the word "elite," and concentrate on the divide between... LAS14 Sunday #45

I'd agree except undereducated people intheflow Sunday #46

Why isn't it taught in K-12 public schools? MichMan Sunday #54

Mostly Because we teach to standardized tests. intheflow Sunday #61

Are you referring exclusively to red states? MichMan Sunday #62

No, it's been national form for some time. intheflow Sunday #63

But then, and this cannot be denied, you have a not insignificant number of educators, administrators, and/or curricula Seeking Serenity Sunday #82

A big problem also, tho, intheflow Monday #113

Aww, thank you. Seeking Serenity Monday #116

I totally agree. Education at every level must be the best that it can be. LAS14 Sunday #69

Hmmmm... respectfully... electric_blue68 Monday #95

Never said they shouldn't be celebrated. intheflow Monday #111

Biden has argued multiple times wryter2000 Sunday #85

Because with our current media, it's easier for them to call Ds elitist than Rs racist. W_HAMILTON Nov 16 #31

Think about the difference between GDP and income EdmondDantes_ Nov 16 #33

Student loans were never supposed to leave you staggering under debt that would make a loan-shark blush Hekate Nov 16 #36

I don't disagree, but then again I had 20,000 forgiven EdmondDantes_ Sunday #70

Are the goalposts being moved in this discussion? There's a *lot* to be said about lack of college funding... Hekate Sunday #72

Higher education used to be nearly free alarimer Monday #125

It's just a variation of limousine liberal that was used out of the 1970s and 80s... Self Esteem Nov 16 #42

"I've seen very little "talking down to regular people" by Democratic politicians." LAS14 Nov 16 #43

Well, how about focusing on the present, and adding some historical background electric_blue68 Monday #132

One example where the Rs have a point. The term Latinx was mostly pushed by Anglo progressives including kelly1mm Nov 16 #44

Literally nobody outside academe uses that term. yardwork Sunday #49

Not any more. Look at DU posts from 2021-2023. You can use the search function above. Is DU kelly1mm Sunday #56

I feel properly shamed and abashed. yardwork Sunday #57

Misinformation/disinformation needs to be called out. Plus words mean things like 'literally'. kelly1mm Sunday #58

You might want to tell Sen. Warren MichMan Sunday #60

It's nothing new. VP Agnew referred to 'An effete core of impudent snobs' Ping Tung Sunday #47

You are being gaslit and it comes from Republican propaganda. yardwork Sunday #48

Agree! Well there is the whole divide and conquer strategy the opposition has been Kashkakat v.2.0 Sunday #50

Probably from Frank Luntz... kirby Sunday #51

At one point I wondered this too, however... ThePartyThatListens Sunday #52

Could you be more specific about (i quote you) electric_blue68 Monday #96

It's still on right now, so turn to Morning Joe ThePartyThatListens Monday #112

I'll see if I can find it bc I finally went to sleep electric_blue68 Monday #133

MAGAts Sneederbunk Sunday #53

From republican talking points and their upmanship. republianmushroom Sunday #59

White males must have no identity maxrandb Sunday #64

Do you want an honest answer from someone who is in the bottom 80% and who has lived around them a lot? DSandra Sunday #65

That also applies to the Republican Party. The most powerful of them are the professional class... and so on. In It to Win It Sunday #67

Later in life I haven't had much money but I get a few special items from Trader's & Whole Foods electric_blue68 Monday #97

I'm talking about the people who have power... DSandra Tuesday #134

I understand that, and that applies to the Republican Party as well. In It to Win It Tuesday #136

As a lifelong Democrat DemonGoddess Monday #103

But much of the Democratic Party power is among the property owners, the people who are already affluent... DSandra Tuesday #135

The media and Fox News... Blue_Tires Sunday #66

as the still-poor child of working class and poor people The Wandering Harper Sunday #71

What were these nauseating moments? dpibel Sunday #78

the 3 big ones The Wandering Harper Sunday #79

Thanks dpibel Sunday #83

The Convention had *plenty* of serious moments! And it's also a get together, nothing wrong with some glitz. electric_blue68 Monday #93

when contrasted with the growing wealth disparity, The Wandering Harper Monday #94

Well, as someone who became poor, after being middle class for about half her life, and was/is concerned about issues.. electric_blue68 Monday #98

you said you're concerned about these things because you're a Democrat The Wandering Harper Monday #99

Sorry to hear about your local Dems. Our Party can *always* use improvement... electric_blue68 Monday #102

yep, born in '73 The Wandering Harper Monday #104

Ah, good luck w that. And... electric_blue68 Monday #105

This message was self-deleted by its author The Wandering Harper Monday #106

thank you. My mother was about as terrrified on election night 1980 The Wandering Harper Monday #107

third times the charm I hope The Wandering Harper Monday #129

"Is there a part of Democratic politics that I'm missing? I honestly feel like I'm being gaslit." B.See Sunday #73

For 10 or 20 years I've been made uncomfortable when... LAS14 Sunday #75

Regarding ditch diggers soandso Monday #88

I wish I were familiar with Mark Rowe. I'm only barely aware of Mark Cuban. LAS14 Monday #120

And since when B.See Monday #89

THIS ☝️ electric_blue68 Monday #92

No way are policies the problem. It's the messaging that's the problem. nt LAS14 Monday #121

Well that's a surprise, because I could've sworn you wrote B.See Monday #123

Flesh that out for me if you can, because I think this is the very opposite of Joe Biden's policies and agenda In It to Win It Monday #91

It's not the policies that are the problem when compared with the GOP. It's the messaging. nt LAS14 Monday #122

Ask Adlai Stevenson. no_hypocrisy Sunday #76

Ever heard getting Democrats to agree on anything is like herding cats? Freethinker65 Sunday #77

Projection Charmin One Sunday #80

RobertReich, for one. elleng Sunday #81

I'll take George Bush SomedayKindaLove Sunday #84

I don't think you missed it Tweedy Monday #87

from the race/religion elitists eShirl Monday #100

It's because you are being gaslit DemonGoddess Monday #101

I think it means... Tommy Carcetti Monday #108

Democratic politicians generally aren't stupid FBaggins Monday #110

Re the border issue In It to Win It Monday #115

You are being gaslit - Elite is everything they don't like about democrats tulipsandroses Monday #117

Many Dem politicians are incredibly rich alarimer Monday #124

Because we have at least high normal IQ's Irish_Dem Monday #126

Why Kamala are you not asking for a recount. When you know Musk and Trump were planing to steal the election. All they h rich7862 Monday #127

Remember limousine liberals? wryter2000 Monday #128