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LisaM

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22. Turnout. The issue was turnout.

Reply to SocialDemocrat61 (Original post)

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:52 AM

Nov 2024

I don't know if it was all due to suppression or voter depression, but certain groups that could have turned didn't.

I will never take Gen Z complaints about previous generations seriously again, since they could have moved the needle with enormous turnout but didn't. Did all Boomers and Xers always turn out or vote correctly? Of course not. And now we can say the same about Gen Z.

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William Shatner doesn't understand why Harris lost [View all] SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 OP

People think "fixing" inflation means returning to JI7 Nov 2024 #1

"returning to the prices we had before" was tried by the British in the 1920s DBoon Nov 2024 #5

Justin Trudeau is unpopular among conservatives canuckledragger Nov 2024 #29

He doesn't have reelection does he? jimfields33 Nov 19 #77

Rich people think prices are down because they hear it in the MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #62

Isn't it funny... slightlv Nov 2024 #68

He can see the whole picture newdeal2 Nov 2024 #2

Gremlins, of course usonian Nov 2024 #3

He shouldn't worry FBaggins Nov 2024 #4

I don't know why William Shatner would agree to go on the Bill Maher show. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #6

Because Maher is a huge Star Trek fan SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #8

But as always, Maher had to be an arrogant jerk. Had to be oppositional with his hero, didn't he? Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #13

Of course SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #14

I just heard on Tom Hartmann that Maher is pandering even farther to the lunatics now that dump is Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #55

Probably Because Maher Offered Him Money Deep State Witch Nov 2024 #56

LOL--my friend's ex was a Saddlebred show judge nolabear Nov 19 #71

If I were a public personality, I'd gladly agree to do his show. Intractable Nov 2024 #65

Good point! Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #67

It's hard for millionaires to understand Elmotime Nov 2024 #7

He' saying Keepthesoulalive Nov 2024 #11

Lower income people voted for Harris. yardwork Nov 2024 #45

In my sister's circle who are mostly middle, upper middle class they electric_blue68 Nov 19 #72

You have no idea what Shatner does or doesn't understand NoRethugFriends Nov 2024 #51

Well, we should educate them. OldBaldy1701E Nov 19 #75

It is not like Trump's economy was good Johonny Nov 2024 #9

Full interview ItsjustMe Nov 2024 #10

I think he used to be an ethical vegetarian and a republican. That combination confused me. But that was long ago. mucifer Nov 2024 #12

Shatner is Canadian SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #15

He obviously overestimated the intellingence of the American electorate. Ping Tung Nov 2024 #16

Prices have NOT come down, definitely not in absolute terms, Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #17

But prices NEVER come down (unless we're in the throes of a very bad recession) groundloop Nov 2024 #25

Pocketbook economy is bad, and our response was to tell them to stop lying paycheck Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #54

People living paycheck to paycheck voted for Harris. yardwork Nov 2024 #46

Many stayed home. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #52

That's not why we lost. yardwork Nov 2024 #57

Did I say that was the reason we lost? Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #60

When did Harris or Walz ever say that empty wallets weren't real? yardwork Nov 2024 #61

When the economy gets worst and they start getting laid off and can't get unemployment help because kimbutgar Nov 2024 #18

getting laid vs pot kiri Nov 2024 #24

Oh, they'll find a way to blame Biden. Bet on it. calimary Nov 2024 #41

Right-wing propaganda. CaptainTruth Nov 2024 #19

Bill Maher is an ass. flashman13 Nov 2024 #20

Listen to Thom Hartmann today Beck23 Nov 2024 #21

Turnout. The issue was turnout. LisaM Nov 2024 #22

100+ million Americans didn't vote. Mosby Nov 2024 #26

There was an absolute shit-ton if misinformation floating around thanks to Musk and Putin, among others groundloop Nov 2024 #28

And at least one, possibly two, generations LisaM Nov 2024 #34

George Carlin's theory holds up. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2024 #42

When he said the economy is good, that became evident. egduj Nov 2024 #23

Dude is 93 years old. Mosby Nov 2024 #27

Bill Shatner lived out of his truck after Star Trek was canceled andym Nov 2024 #43

Truth is even in the movies SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #58

He does not have star trek money either KentuckyWoman Nov 2024 #63

He was paid many millions for the ST movies that he was in. Intractable Nov 2024 #66

$2 million for STII? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #73

It's a figure I heard a long time ago. Nimoy did not have Shatner's salary. Intractable Nov 19 #74

Still sounds high SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #76

Then by all means, go find your source and report back to us with the urgent news from 42 years ago. Intractable Nov 19 #79

You made the claim SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #80

And I told you to go find your own answer. Intractable Nov 19 #82

So in other words SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #83

I don't have to prove anything to you, especially since you have nothing to offer but your own obsession with the topic. Intractable Nov 19 #84

So we are clear SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #85

We are clear. It was clear in my first post that it was a long-standing memory, not an encyclopedic fact. Intractable Nov 19 #86

Thanks for continuing to kick my thread SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #87

And that's why you are arguing with me repeating this nonsense about proof? So you can kick your OP? Intractable Nov 19 #88

Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 Nov 19 #89

Prices have not 'come down'. Thats not how lowering the inflation rate works. Prices are not rising as fast kelly1mm Nov 2024 #30

I love how well mahar pretended that... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #31

Bill Maher is an ass. yardwork Nov 2024 #47

Yes. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ Nov 2024 #32

Funny how a black woman is "identity politics" nuxvomica Nov 2024 #33

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2024 #59

The Republicans stole he election. BradBo Nov 2024 #35

..bullet ballots/undervotes adnormally higher in orleans Nov 2024 #38

Again. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #49

Our plumber is from Norway. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2024 #36

Is he single and will he marry me? please? Think. Again. Nov 2024 #50

Nope. Sorry. He's married. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2024 #53

Boy, we value ourselves too highly Shatner. kansasobama Nov 2024 #37

Even Captain Kirk don't get it. LilElf70 Nov 2024 #39

This guy has violated the Federation's Prime Directive so many times, I don't think he could understand it. Intractable Nov 2024 #64

Shatner probably isn't aware of the Orwellian hate media that millions consume every day AdamGG Nov 2024 #40

Shatner can't understand why Maher is such an a-hole. ThePartyThatListens Nov 2024 #44

Sorry, I do think it's "the secret" stolen. Bluethroughu Nov 2024 #69

I'm with Bill Shatner - Why did the Democrats lose? How could "Bozo the Clown" have won? dai13sy Nov 19 #70

Because the reality is the US is not a good country. It is full of racists, sexists, and hate mongers. JohnSJ Nov 19 #78

The economy was good in 2016 before orange anus took office. Omnipresent Nov 19 #81