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Emrys

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21. The governments will behave responsibly. Neither I nor you have to tell them a thing.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 19

These countries have been arming themselves against sub-nuclear threats for quite a while, partly because, unlike you Americans, they've been invaded and occupied and repelled the USSR/Russians in the past and aren't complacent. Finland has a vast system of underground bunkers under Helsinki built since the 1960s, so I don't think you have much to teach them about the dangers. Apart from that, there is no serious defence against real nuclear threats (unless you think you have impenetrable anti-missile countermeasures, and even then, you may face fallout), only mitigation and preparation.

Partly, I believe it's a counter to Putin, and not just for home consumption: "You wanna get real, huh? OK, we're scared but prepared, and pissed off. We whipped you and drove you out in the past, we'll do our damnedest to do it again, and we're better prepared now and have more powerful allies, and you're much weakened. And by the way, we'll survive you."

You could call it deterrence. The hope is it'll never be necessary.

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How do you stockpile medication? woodsprite Nov 19 #1
Florida isn't in Finland and Sweden... presumably their laws differ. AkFemDem Nov 19 #3
same here...and I take some really narly biologic for my autoimmune disease FirstLight Nov 19 #8
I take Simponi for A.S. JustAnotherGen Nov 19 #34
Personal prescription medication is somewhat different... Dan Nov 19 #31
Don't expect any assistance from the USA republianmushroom Nov 19 #2
We don't have until Jan 20.... AkFemDem Nov 19 #5
Putin just won the war he is waging against the US. Irish_Dem Nov 19 #26
Honestly, we are already in WWIII DSandra Nov 19 #30
I'm stockpiling coffee. Greybnk48 Nov 19 #4
Yikes! You live in Finland or Sweden? AkFemDem Nov 19 #6
Man I hope this fizzles out jfz9580m Nov 19 #7
Putin rattles his nukes at every supposed "provocation" Emrys Nov 19 #9
Thats called wistful thinking AkFemDem Nov 19 #10
btw I call this optimistic POV "The American Bubble Boy Syndrome" AkFemDem Nov 19 #11
I believe 100% that Putin won't start a nuclear war. Elessar Zappa Nov 19 #12
Rubbish. It's called realism, not optimism. Emrys Nov 19 #13
Denial, wistful thinking, navet.... AkFemDem Nov 19 #14
You've behaved as arrogantly as any person I've encountered on DU Emrys Nov 19 #15
Okay AkFemDem Nov 19 #19
The governments will behave responsibly. Neither I nor you have to tell them a thing. Emrys Nov 19 #21
I've been "uncomfortable" ever since the day russia launched its full scale invasion Crunchy Frog Nov 19 #17
Without wishing to seem patronizing, thank you. You very much get it. Emrys Nov 19 #18
Ukraine is really close to my heart too. I got really fascinated with the whole region Crunchy Frog Nov 19 #20
I think many of us at the end of the Cold War had big hopes for a Russia that was modelled more on Gorbachev than Putin, Emrys Nov 19 #22
wistful adjective Crunchy Frog Nov 19 #23
If I want WW3 hysteria I'll go over to Xitter. Crunchy Frog Nov 19 #16
The sooner Putin and his goons rid the world of their evil existence the better. Initech Nov 19 #24
"The Kremlin has revised its nuclear policy. Does that make the use of atomic weapons more likely?" AkFemDem Nov 19 #25
I forsee a military catastrophe. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 19 #27
What if you don't have a baby milestogo Nov 19 #28
Well there are a few people posting on this thread who could use the diapers... Crunchy Frog Nov 19 #33
I dont understand JeffinUT Nov 19 #29
Someone figure out how to notify Kamala Harris of the likelihood that the election was stolen... DSandra Nov 19 #32
And pay cash for it. That way the government can't come after you for hoarding. mucholderthandirt Nov 20 #35
You can buy bon reloadable cards that can't be tracked Kaleva Nov 20 #36
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