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In reply to the discussion: "Donald Trump was returned to power by the most badly informed electorate in modern American history." [View all]nmmi
(99 posts)21. ⚠️ ARCHIVE.IS LINK , a couple paragraphs, and more from Amanda Marcotte at salon.com
Philadelphia Inquirer piece in the OP:
https://archive.is/NFeTA#selection-673.0-677.118
2024s other big loser? The mainstream media. Is there any path forward?
As an electorate besieged by disinformation turned to Trump, trust in traditional media has imploded. What comes next?
As an electorate besieged by disinformation turned to Trump, trust in traditional media has imploded. What comes next?
This very much jibes with where voters get their news (https://archive.is/o/NFeTA/https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/attytood/biden-voters-low-information-trump-red-lobster-rigged-polls-20240521.html ). An NBC News survey back in May ( https://archive.is/o/NFeTA/https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24614251-240126-nbc-april-2024-poll-4-26-2024-release WHICH MORPHS INTO https://archive.is/pg5rO [1] -nmmi) when Biden was still the Democrats deeply troubled candidate found nonetheless that he led by landslide proportions among the shrinking number of Americans who still read a newspaper, with a 70-21% lead ((it's more than just reading a newspaper - see below -nmmi)).
The now-president-elect, according to that NBC survey, posted his biggest margin of 53-27% among voters who dont follow any news.
... That dovetails with the survey ( https://archive.is/o/NFeTA/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/trump-harris-policy-quiz/ ) in which voters when blindly given a choice between Trumps policy agenda and Harris proposals went strongly for the ideas of the Democrat who would lose.
The now-president-elect, according to that NBC survey, posted his biggest margin of 53-27% among voters who dont follow any news.
... That dovetails with the survey ( https://archive.is/o/NFeTA/https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/trump-harris-policy-quiz/ ) in which voters when blindly given a choice between Trumps policy agenda and Harris proposals went strongly for the ideas of the Democrat who would lose.
[1] This link doesn't work for me. But from The Week 11/22/24 p. 12, Amanda Marcotte at salon.com wrote (I added the spacing, and emphasis -nmmi):
When given an explicit choice, most Americans actually prefer Democratic policies on health care, abortion, wages, family leave, taxation, and the economy.
Polls from earlier this year, in fact found that people "who consume news from journalistic outlets -- newspapers, network news programs, and news websites -- overwhelmingly planned to vote for the Democratic candidate"
But roughly half the country now consumes "an all-propaganda media diet" from Fox News, Tik Tok, Instagram, X, right-wing podcasts, and what their MAGAfied friends and family tell them. These sources immerse their audiences in a separate reality of misinformation, resentment, and conspiracy theories in which vaccines are dangerous, scientists are evil, America is a hellhole overrun by criminals and vicious migrants, Ukraine isn't worth saving, and the economy is in the toilet. ...
Polls from earlier this year, in fact found that people "who consume news from journalistic outlets -- newspapers, network news programs, and news websites -- overwhelmingly planned to vote for the Democratic candidate"
But roughly half the country now consumes "an all-propaganda media diet" from Fox News, Tik Tok, Instagram, X, right-wing podcasts, and what their MAGAfied friends and family tell them. These sources immerse their audiences in a separate reality of misinformation, resentment, and conspiracy theories in which vaccines are dangerous, scientists are evil, America is a hellhole overrun by criminals and vicious migrants, Ukraine isn't worth saving, and the economy is in the toilet. ...
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"Donald Trump was returned to power by the most badly informed electorate in modern American history." [View all]
CousinIT
Nov 20
OP
There were a lot, and I mean a lot, of people who did not care, they knew about trump's crimes
Escurumbele
Nov 21
#62
Yes lazy and short sighted. No sense of responsibility, public service, or the common good.
Irish_Dem
Nov 20
#7
One might argue that there can be ignorance due to inability to find knowledge.
OldBaldy1701E
Nov 20
#34
Propaganda can be either good or evil. Thanks to Rupert Murdoch and Fox, however,
RVN VET71
Nov 20
#46
The rules of the media game are easy to manipulate: any criticism an opponent says gets covered
andym
Nov 20
#5
In the movie 'The Caine Mutiny', there is a great descriptor used to describe the US.
OldBaldy1701E
Nov 20
#39
Blaming the electorate again... well guess what, it's the SAME electorate in 2028
WarGamer
Nov 20
#15
To rational people yes, but to MAGA Christians this is salvation through suffering
bucolic_frolic
Nov 20
#16
I'm of the opinion that the dullards want to be told what to think, it's just so much easier.
NoMoreRepugs
Nov 20
#20
⚠️ ARCHIVE.IS LINK , a couple paragraphs, and more from Amanda Marcotte at salon.com
nmmi
Nov 20
#21
This is the result of years of Twitter/X, TikTok, Facebook, etc. Social media will be the death of Democracy.
beaglelover
Nov 20
#29
Started way earlier than that. Rupert Murdoch was hired after Nixon impeachment
travelingthrulife
Nov 21
#61
Absolutely. Disinformation online greatly outweighed news sources the reported truth.
brush
Nov 20
#42
Decades ago, a PoliSci professor told us that the inherent weakness in democracy
TomSlick
Nov 20
#54
Finally - someone who has the word "disinformation" in their vocabulary and not afraid to use it!
Kashkakat v.2.0
Nov 21
#58