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In reply to the discussion: Netanyahu says that those who say he is committing a war crime by bombing and starving the civilians of Gaza..... [View all]sarisataka
(21,340 posts)19. When you apply the term Semitic to Jews and Arabs as an ethnicity
You are promoting the ideas of the Göttingen school of history
The Göttingen school of history was a group of historians associated with a particular style of historiography located at the University of Göttingen in the late 18th century.[1]
The University of Göttingen was the original centre of the "Geschichtswissenschaft" or history as an academic discipline, and became a major centre for globally-orientated anthropology.[2] The school itself was one of the newest universities in Europe, having been founded in 1734 by Gerlach Adolph von Münchhausen, and the first to include the obligation to conduct and publish research alongside lecturing.[3] The historians of this school sought to write a universal history by combining the critical methods of Jean Mabillon with that of the philosophical historians such as Voltaire and Edward Gibbon.[4]
This group of historians played an important role in creating a scientific basis for historical research,[5] and were also responsible for coining two fundamental groups of terminologies in scientific racism:
Blumenbach and Meiners's color terminology for race: Caucasian or white race; Mongolian or yellow race; Malayan or brown race; Negroid or black race; and American or red race;[6]
Gatterer, Schlözer and Eichhorn's Biblical terminology for race: Semitic, Hamitic and Japhetic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ttingen_school_of_history
The University of Göttingen was the original centre of the "Geschichtswissenschaft" or history as an academic discipline, and became a major centre for globally-orientated anthropology.[2] The school itself was one of the newest universities in Europe, having been founded in 1734 by Gerlach Adolph von Münchhausen, and the first to include the obligation to conduct and publish research alongside lecturing.[3] The historians of this school sought to write a universal history by combining the critical methods of Jean Mabillon with that of the philosophical historians such as Voltaire and Edward Gibbon.[4]
This group of historians played an important role in creating a scientific basis for historical research,[5] and were also responsible for coining two fundamental groups of terminologies in scientific racism:
Blumenbach and Meiners's color terminology for race: Caucasian or white race; Mongolian or yellow race; Malayan or brown race; Negroid or black race; and American or red race;[6]
Gatterer, Schlözer and Eichhorn's Biblical terminology for race: Semitic, Hamitic and Japhetic.
Their racist ideas were developed and expanded by others into the concept of an "Aryan" race. The Semites (and others) became the Untermensch
"Antisemitism" is a 19th century term which quickly became a euphemism for "Jew hate" in Germany.
Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who incorrectly assert (in an etymological fallacy) that it refers to racist hatred directed at "Semitic people" in spite of the fact that this grouping is an obsolete historical race concept. Likewise, such usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus was first used in print in Germany in 1879[19] as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit "Jew-hatred'),[20][21][22][23][24] and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.
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Netanyahu says that those who say he is committing a war crime by bombing and starving the civilians of Gaza..... [View all]
MMBeilis
Nov 22
OP
Not to mention that people who are Arabs ARE SEMITES!! AND...what part of things does he NOT understand that YOU DON'T
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Nov 22
#3
This should be watched by everyone who has an opinion about Israel and the Palestinians, especially the apologists....
MMBeilis
Dec 2
#57
So, are you telling me that I'M AN ANTISEMITE? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!! YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME!!
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Dec 2
#47
I DON'T care what you THINK it applies to...We've ALL heard the pejoratives calling people who are Arab OR have Arabic
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Dec 2
#46
No doubt that Bibi is commiting war crimes. No doubt that Hamas & Hezbolla are...
electric_blue68
Dec 2
#61
Of course not. Regarding Netanyahu our expectations are limited to more arrogance and self righteous and nothing more.
MMBeilis
Dec 1
#40
"The term 'anti-Semitic', being so overused to mean 'complaining about Israeli action' holds no meaning anymore."
Rigpa108
Dec 1
#34
Okay so that makes me antisemitic. I agree with the ICC, what he has done is war crimes.
Autumn
Nov 22
#13
It that true? Look at all of the warrants for the perpetrators of the genocide in Sudan...
sarisataka
Nov 22
#21
Let's not forget there was a warrant for Ibrahim Al-Masri too, I hear he is just broken up in pieces that he won't
tritsofme
Nov 22
#18
Absolutely true. The entire Middle East conflict is built upon sweeping generalizations.
MMBeilis
Dec 1
#43
Yep, "..even when done in one's own self-defense.." like Coates said, there is no justification for apartheid
uponit7771
Dec 1
#31
Interesting that my original post gets lost in a bunch of bullshit (my words) about who is a semite. We know....
MMBeilis
Dec 1
#41
When you wake up a hibernating big Bear and then, the pissed-off bear starts kicking your ass...
chouchou
Dec 2
#62
Hibernating? Every day West Bank settlers mistreat Palestinian arabs. You did get.....
MMBeilis
Dec 3
#63
Hamas has been at their throat fo generations. Isreal is fed up with the Up-the-population-until-we-take-over-everything
chouchou
Dec 3
#65