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Metaphorical

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116. Why Psychopaths Win (and Eventually Fall)
Sat Nov 23, 2024, 02:45 PM
Saturday

In psychology there is no real distinction between psychopaths and sociopaths - they are seen as the same thing, so I'll use the term psychopath to describe Trump.

Psychopaths have no real sense of compassion, justice,or fair play. No empathy. They don't believe that rules apply to them, and will inevitably go out of their way to put themselves into positions where there are no checks on their power. They cheat, they intimidate, they blackmail, they coerce, they gaslight. They hog the spotlight. They own loyalty to nobody, but expect everyone to be loyal to them, and they are vindictive when they do not receive their due. Nothing is ever their fault, but they will always claim success even if they had little to nothing to do with the task at hand.

Psychopaths succeed primarily by being tenacious and never accepting "No" for an answer. 2020 was likely a hard lesson for Trump, and he did everything he could to stack the deck so it wouldn't happen again. This is what makes psychopaths so dangerous - unless you physically constrain them, they WILL come back for revenge. The malevolent narcissist is perhaps the worst of these, because they need constant attention, they are completely self-focused, and will act out when they don't get what they feel is their due. They also recognize that they won't ever be respected, so they are perfectly happy to be feared. This is one reason that so many of them end up being dictators.

Dictators can be very effective for a time (if they don't let their own inherent laziness get in control) and they frequently take control by destroying existing institutions and oppositional strongholds. They use fear, coupled with the occasional strike, to keep forces in line and wary. They also usually try to suborn power structures such as the military, the intelligence network, and churches.

Dictators fall when they cannot marshal enough of a power base to stay in power. They lose their patrons, they fail to gain control of the military or the intelligence apparatus, they piss off the upper class, they anger the media. Dictators fall when people are no longer afraid of them.

Now, Trump is facing several potential obstacles to staying in power:

* He's a known quantity, and most of those same power structures have been strengthening their defenses against him. This will make it harder for him to be able to take control (he's lost the element of surprise), and there will be more resistance to his appointments.
* He has a razor thin control of the House, and not much better in the Senate - and the Senate in general is less likely to rubberstamp his appointments. He's actually in worse shape now than he was in 2016, and the GOP in particular is riven by partisan infighting.
* Moreover the election map for 2026 favors the Democrats far more than it does the GOP, and that's not factoring in the standard mid-term opposition.
* The blue states have QUICKLY mobilized, and will offer active resistance to anything that significantly gives him an advantage.
* He doesn't have a popular mandate. If he starts to make significant changes that affect people's lives or livelihood, he is going to bleed what little support he has.
* He has few allies that are not there because of fear. He's going to find it hard to get people to work for him, and the people he's already chosen for his cabinet are, for the most part, being awarded patronage, not because they are competent. Most of the people from his first cabinet won't return.
* He has his pet billionaire, Elon Musk, working for him, but Musk is working in a department (DOGE) which does not yet exist, that may find difficulty in getting funding if somehow it passes Congress (and I don't believe it will), and Musk has an ego that is nearly as massive as Trump's, and may actually have some difficulty in getting approved by Congress as the head of such a department. I also expect Trump and Musk to come to loggerheads sooner rather than later, and Musk may very well spill the beans as to how exactly Trump "won" the election if he feels he's being sidelined.
* I don't think that Trump actually has the base that people assume - there were a lot of people who were taken in by the media (or social media), and there will be many more who voted out someone who didn't improve the economy they felt should have been advantageous to them. Many of them will have their eyes opened in the next two years.
* JD Vance is waiting in the background. I'm not convinced that Trump's failings were all that feigned, he IS old, and there may be more than a few Republicans who feel that, having returned the GOP to power, Trump is no longer necessary. Also, golf courses and drones.

Note: I think that Vance is a snake, but he's not a narcissistic psychopath. He would not be a great president, but we've had worse, and this isn't even numbering Trump among that list.


That's a question that's been pondered for centuries. Ocelot II Friday #1
I too, have questions as he managed to get away w/ literally everything, even being convicted 34 or so times (felonies) SWBTATTReg Friday #5
The Diktator Of Day One can probably take care of those pesky state charges erronis Friday #12
And the SC says "Yes!"... rubbersole Friday #34
It's all about the Golden Rule HarryM Saturday #105
"Why" is totally simple. recovering_democrat Friday #40
I've often thought that if there were justice Gaugamela Friday #2
Laws are for schmucks. Laws keep the schmucks in check. usonian Friday #3
Father Elon. rubbersole Friday #35
"in god we trust" rampartd Friday #75
Under His Eye paparush Saturday #99
The love and worship of Mammon Farmer-Rick Saturday #100
You might enjoy usonian Saturday #103
I'll look it up Farmer-Rick Saturday #115
"You have a republic, if you can keep it." LudwigPastorius Friday #4
Well said. n/t yellow dahlia Friday #70
Sir, to answer your questions... SnoopDog Friday #6
It worked for them ! Nigrum Cattus Saturday #117
At 18 years old 58 years ago I had to get a doc03 Friday #7
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Friday #8
Stealing this graphic HarryM Saturday #106
Because you're a hero, and role model David Boyle Friday #9
At least you can go to sleep with a clear conscience KS Toronado Friday #10
He does not have a conscience. Jamesm9164 Friday #13
Correct. ShazzieB Friday #31
Geez bdamomma Friday #44
THAT'S clear. dchill Friday #88
tsf is sufficientlly tranqued to not give a shit. Assuming he ever had a conscience! erronis Friday #17
Huh? He sleeps like a diapered baby. He's been criming for so long, it's all he knows. nt allegorical oracle Friday #32
Because we do the right thing Tweedy Friday #11
What stands between us and the devil now? Slave patrol? Get real. TheKentuckian Friday #84
I am real Tweedy Saturday #119
What protection? As to your question, the appropriate people being lawless is more than sufficient TheKentuckian Saturday #120
Disagree Tweedy Sunday #121
On this day in 1963 is when it all changed. Kid Berwyn Friday #14
Be proud of yourself for keeping high moral and ethical standards when it Karadeniz Friday #15
Trump could not pass even the most basic background check Skittles Friday #16
Unless the whole game is rigged. erronis Friday #19
well it is definitely rigged for RICH WHITE MEN Skittles Friday #21
President bdamomma Friday #47
Maybe not close, but the closest. Hard to accept that KPN Friday #65
Sure seems that way doesn't it. KPN Friday #61
The game is most certainly rigged. returnee Friday #66
There's an old acronym: RHIP patphil Friday #18
Thanks for the memories. I doubt I'll stay around for another repeat of this cycle. erronis Friday #23
You and I both. It was a hard time. I'm not ready to do it again. patphil Friday #24
Makes me very sad. It's been a long slog. KPN Friday #67
Why do so many military personnel follow T? Hope22 Friday #20
Question bdamomma Friday #48
My family members....? Hope22 Friday #59
that has got to be so hard. I can't imagine being part of a family with those views. erronis Friday #69
I'm sorry to hear about your cousin. It's hard not to get the answer to the question. 💗🙏🏼 Hope22 Friday #79
Because a large chunk qazplm135 Saturday #101
And west mid western...they seem to have a racist bend that can't be overlooked. Hope22 Saturday #111
Everything trended south after 2000 SleeplessinSoCal Friday #22
Too bad that George, Tom, Ben and the guys didn't insert a bit about convicted felons allegorical oracle Friday #25
Their worst nightmare. yellow dahlia Friday #71
Because you actually will be held responsible. BlueTsunami2018 Friday #26
I am so ashamed of our country and my fellow citizens to support such an evil deranged lying cheating traitorous kimbutgar Friday #27
So true Cherokee100 Friday #28
To me bdamomma Friday #49
Are you are a billionaire, or perceived to be a billionaire? JT45242 Friday #29
There has never been a time in recorded history Locutusofborg Friday #30
Be a serf if you wish but I am a citizen. TheKentuckian Friday #85
If there is a law you don't like Beachnutt Friday #33
Fair The Wizard Friday #36
You should get promoted to president. Then you can do whatever you please and Ping Tung Friday #37
That resonates with me. I hear you loud and clear. WE are being overlooked is my opinion. Did everything right and now Evolve Dammit Friday #38
But isn't this why people strive to become rich, powerful, influential? Aussie105 Friday #39
I'm right with you! Mr. Evil Friday #41
Well, our bdamomma Friday #54
IMO, he had plans to pull this "soft coup" even before he first came down the tacky allegorical oracle Saturday #96
AverageOldGuy.......very simple answer.... Butterflylady Friday #42
There is no real reason other than to avoid the hammer. TheKentuckian Friday #43
AverageOldGuy, I think you know the answer to this already FakeNoose Friday #45
Maybe we need another French Revolution Stargazer99 Saturday #94
Apparently tRump is special.... So fucking special.... Blue Owl Friday #46
And I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo, what am I doing here? k55f5r Saturday #107
It does seem that the worth of a well-lived life Mblaze Friday #50
Because you're better than *rump and you have an example to set even if it's against the dark power of injustice, Uncle Joe Friday #51
He got a different Supreme Court opinion than the rest of us would have gotten. surfered Friday #52
What Is True Purpose of "Law" modrepub Friday #53
Accountability and consequences for rich, white men are few and far between dlk Friday #55
The answer to your question NewLarry Friday #56
I believe that most of us TNNurse Friday #57
Life is not fair. Never was, never will be. n/t elocs Friday #58
I join you in feeling stupid when I stop at a stop sign! Hope22 Friday #60
We are better Rebl2 Friday #63
We had a slumber party in 8th grade. Hope22 Saturday #89
Simple Rebl2 Friday #62
the birth lottery tmars505 Friday #64
"Give Us Barabas!" BurnDoubt Friday #68
Some good comments and observations, yellow dahlia Friday #72
AverageOldGuy CentralBlueTexan Friday #73
I don't have an answer Meowmee Friday #74
Exactly This Deep State Witch Friday #76
When you left the intel job moondust Friday #77
Why? Because, unlike iDJT & his cronies, Dark n Stormy Knight Friday #78
See for example Emmanuel Kant's Generalization Principle WheelWalker Friday #80
One would have to ask Merrick the Meek, why. republianmushroom Friday #81
It's mind boggling. I don't think our government Joinfortmill Friday #82
What you write is what I've been saying for years now... slightlv Friday #83
Because you are you. H2O Man Friday #86
Simple: Money. The rules do not apply to the rich. SunSeeker Friday #87
Because Randomthought Saturday #90
Didn't read all the replies, so this has probably been said, but B.See Saturday #91
Glad to be rec 200 AKwannabe Saturday #92
Imho, because you have a self-regulating sense of honor, and ethics. Ty electric_blue68 Saturday #93
I've had cheerleaders mock me for asking much the same question Orrex Saturday #95
Trump gets away withn it Progressive dog Saturday #97
You should do these things because you want to be a good person and a patriot Ohioboy Saturday #98
22snakes RoHok123 Saturday #102
It is a habit.... kentuck Saturday #104
You probably don't have the money for lawyers. duncang Saturday #108
You're lucky to have pensions wryter2000 Saturday #109
VERY simple answer CommonHumanity Saturday #110
Just get 80 million morons to vote for you for President Pototan Saturday #112
If you would like to have the same privileges Joe Nation Saturday #113
Sadly, corruption DOES trickle down, snot Saturday #114
Why Psychopaths Win (and Eventually Fall) Metaphorical Saturday #116
One more thought (to the OP) Metaphorical Saturday #118
Because you aren't Trump or one of the elite. Because you wouldn't be able to live with yourself. mucholderthandirt Monday #122
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