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63. Great article! The links provided in the article lead to several other great articles.

Sun Nov 24, 2024, 01:06 PM

Nov 24

We Democrats definitely -- generally and as a whole -- are at a disadvantage when it comes to influencing people ... because we believe so strongly in reason over manipulation and deceit. Our strength is our weakness and we need to come to grips with that.

ps -- not saying we need to deceive or manipulate.

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Politico: I Watched Orban Destroy Hungary's Democracy. Here's My Advice for the Trump Era. [View all] Dennis Donovan Nov 23 OP

Thanks. Bookmarking. (nt) Pinback Nov 23 #1

Now Politico is concerned....... Lovie777 Nov 23 #2

Yes. Nice of Das Politico (as KO calls it)... regnaD kciN Nov 23 #26

Bookmarked. Thank you! K&R! highplainsdem Nov 23 #3

Excellent article. mzmolly Nov 23 #4

This should be required reading. Raven Nov 23 #5

Trump and his henchmen will never tell their MAGA followers they want to "destroy democracy," sop Nov 23 #6

The MAGA cult does not want a democracy. Irish_Dem Nov 23 #16

Trump does tell them that and they cheer. travelingthrulife Nov 24 #58

'Trump Has Vowed to Shake Some of Democracy's Pillars' sop Nov 24 #60

In the past few years Orban has met alone with Republicans and Trump to advise them on how to do an autocratic takeover. jalan48 Nov 23 #7

Trump could meet with the devil and the maga cult would cheer him for it. Irish_Dem Nov 23 #17

Yep. They have bought into the fantasy land of Jesus and returning to the good old days, dragging us with them. jalan48 Nov 23 #18

Their fantasy that Trump is the new religious lord and savior is mind blowing. Irish_Dem Nov 23 #19

It's a depressing situation. I'm focusing on my local volunteer stuff and it's helping a lot. jalan48 Nov 23 #20

Yes we need to work on coping strategies. Irish_Dem Nov 23 #21

I know that Hitler comparisons are overworked sometimes wnylib Nov 24 #53

The Hitler analogy is quite appropriate. Irish_Dem Nov 24 #54

Here's a little background on Hitler's use of religion. wnylib Nov 24 #67

Thank you. Irish_Dem Nov 25 #68

Total capitulation mollie8 Nov 24 #56

Only Nixon could go to China, and Trump can go to Hell. Efilroft Sul Nov 23 #40

Instead Trump has brought hell to us. Irish_Dem Nov 23 #42

A must read. dalton99a Nov 23 #8

K&R Solly Mack Nov 23 #9

Important points Cirsium Nov 23 #10

Unfortunately nycbos Nov 23 #12

It started with Reagan orangecrush Nov 23 #14

Yes, but... nycbos Nov 23 #15

True orangecrush Nov 23 #24

OMG. I never thought I'd think these two guys were enlightened MadameButterfly Nov 24 #50

Isn't that amazing? Cirsium Nov 24 #61

I wish I could give this more recs MadameButterfly Nov 24 #51

Thanks! orangecrush Nov 24 #66

Beat me to it. orangecrush Nov 23 #13

Isn't that what Harris and especially Walz tried to do? Ocelot II Nov 23 #31

No Cirsium Nov 23 #39

Huh. I must have been listening to a different Harris and Walz team. Ocelot II Nov 23 #41

Probably, yes Cirsium Nov 23 #44

That's what I was thinking. Six117 Nov 24 #57

I think it's impossible to reach most white working class R voters no matter what you do. TRHST82 Nov 23 #35

In short, Bernie was right MadameButterfly Nov 24 #52

Article should be pinned on front page of DU andym Nov 23 #11

An informative and instructive essay La Coliniere Nov 23 #22

K & R, enthusiastically. Native Nov 23 #23

That's an excellent article. Elessar Zappa Nov 23 #25

Thank you for sharing this. TheKentuckian Nov 23 #27

I'd guess Linda ladeewolf Nov 23 #28

Our language is critical. It reveals our attitudes. summer_in_TX Nov 25 #69

I've expressed this Linda ladeewolf Nov 26 #71

Yes, and we also make assumptions about who they are. summer_in_TX Nov 26 #72

This is the most important paragraph of the whole article Farmer-Rick Nov 23 #29

Yes, trickle down economics has poli-junkie Nov 23 #46

Whole article excellent Wild blueberry Nov 23 #30

These assholes should NOT be called 'populists!" HUAJIAO Nov 23 #32

Astroturf Assholes Zambero Nov 24 #62

"the consent of the ruled" Beartracks Nov 23 #33

Booking for later, n/t Martin Eden Nov 23 #34

"Economic anxiety" and backlash to neoliberalism is only a small part of it. TRHST82 Nov 23 #36

Trying to figure out how to do my part to protect our institutions. yellow dahlia Nov 23 #37

Thank you for posting. yellow dahlia Nov 23 #38

We've had authoritarian fascism here in the US before. Yavin4 Nov 23 #43

The oligarchs believe they no longer have to be stealthy about their takeover. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 23 #45

Thank you. Pinback Nov 24 #65

Orban is to Trump ThoughtCriminal Nov 23 #47

Thank you, bookmarking to read and refer back to. wendyb-NC Nov 24 #48

This brand of fascism is a cancer. It is destroying democracies left and right. Initech Nov 24 #49

excellent piece with a lot of good advice LymphocyteLover Nov 24 #55

Translation Wavelight Nov 24 #59

Great article! The links provided in the article lead to several other great articles. KPN Nov 24 #63

Article describes how right wing populists unify a group of billionaires and workers. Many are not drawn by racism andym Nov 24 #64

It was not an accident that Trump mentioned the visit from Orban to Mar A Lago at the debate andym Nov 26 #70