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AverageOldGuy

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Sun Nov 24, 2024, 05:50 PM Nov 24

What's this "warrior" stuff? [View all]

Trump has nominated Pete Hegseth to be Secretary of Defense.

Every third word out of Hegseth's mouth is "warrior."

Hegseth has announced he will form a panel of "warriors" to review the records of current generals and admirals to determine which are "warriors" and, as such, should remain on active duty while the non-warriors can retire (or maybe be stripped of their rank and shot, who knows).

I served 28 years active duty --1967-1995, including a tour in the bush in Vietnam. I've been to war. I've been in gunfights that lasted for what seemed like a month. I still attend an occasional gathering of Vietnam vets, just about all of them are combat vets. You know what we talk about when we get together? Surely we must tell war stories -- you know -- there I was surrounded by VC, almost out of ammo, clenching my Kabar in my teeth, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

NO. THIS IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT:
1. Our grandchildren
2. Our enlarged prostrates.
3. And the guys who did not come back alive.

I met a guy 15 years ago and count him as a friend. Two years after I met him, after we had seen each other a few times each month, I learned he was awarded the Medal of Honor. Look him up. Nicest, most pleasant, unassuming, helpful, quiet guy you will ever meet. You know what he talks about? His grandchildren, his sailboat, and Marines who died. Does he strut around with his MOH, even though he's authorized to wear it damn near full-time? Absolutely not. He's a warrior. He doesn't have to play the part.

Old soldiers do not tell war stories. We do not thump our chests and proclaim that we are warriors.

That piece of shit Hegseth served 20 years in the National Guard, including one year as a platoon leader (43 people) in Iraq and the rest of his 20 years going to monthly drills. Saw very little combat. I know some Guard guys from Vietnam, I know some Guard guys who died in Vietnam. Hegseth is not qualified to polish their boots. This asshole thinks he's qualified to manage 3,000,000 people and a trillion dollar a year budget. Spit.

Watch closely the next time this asshole speaks -- count the "warriors", he has all the requisite tats all over both arms plus a swastika on his chest -- which makes him a warrior? Kiss this old soldier's ass.

I read the police report quoting the woman he raped. She said, when he was on top of her, his dog tags were dangling in her face!! DOG TAGS?!?!?!?! This muthahfukah wears his dog tags all the time? Mine are laid away in a drawer with some other stuff. I don't know anyone who wears his/her dog tags. We must not be "warriors."

In mid-December I will be at a dinner for one of the Senators from my state (a Democrat) who is on the Senate Armed Services Committee. I intend to tell him he damn well better vote against Hegseth.

I live in the DC area; my daughter lives on Capitol Hill. When we visit her, I go for walks around the Hill. If I ever encounter Hegseth, I'll tell him face-to-face to kiss this old soldier's ass.

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What's this "warrior" stuff? [View all] AverageOldGuy Nov 24 OP
The only place I ever saw my dad's (WWII vet) dog tags... dchill Nov 24 #1
My Dad's, too. He was in the US Army Corps of Engineers in WWII. TrollBuster9090 Nov 24 #61
That alleged rapist was a relatively low-ranking officer, a major, who never commanded... brush Nov 24 #2
My uncle was captured in the Battle of the Bulge. 5 or 7 months as a POW. Talked of eating cattle beets. keithbvadu2 Nov 24 #24
Major Malfunction orangecrush Nov 24 #45
Heehee. Yep. brush Nov 24 #46
My uncle was in the Battle of the Bulge, got a medal for it. Ocelot II Nov 24 #3
My grandfather was in the Bulge underpants Nov 24 #5
The real heroes have seen way too much slightlv Nov 24 #59
Mine was a tank commander in Battle of the Bulge. travelingthrulife Nov 25 #78
A Bush the Younger conceit. Trying to live down skipping out of Vietnam. haele Nov 24 #4
I hated the term "Homeland security". Americans don't call their country Homeland. Homeland is our ancestors' country Walleye Nov 24 #31
I thought I was the only one who thought the word "Homeland" sounded kinda fake patriotic. Diamond_Dog Nov 24 #51
Homeland stage left Nov 24 #53
Yes - Das Vaterland Pinback Nov 25 #85
What bothered me about it was that Fascists, Nazis, and Communists always referred to their country TrollBuster9090 Nov 24 #62
Hear Hear! OldBaldy1701E Nov 24 #6
I read every word of this OP with huge interest. Thank you, AverageOldGuy. Scrivener7 Nov 24 #7
Thanks for the insight, and your service. Much appreciated from another average old guy. Evolve Dammit Nov 24 #8
It was Dwight Eisenhower who warned us BarbD Nov 24 #9
He was right. Ike would probably be centrist Dem today. brush Nov 24 #27
Faux would call him a liberal. rubbersole Nov 24 #34
Clearly, he's a warrior against girls and women. milestogo Nov 24 #10
TSF calls even non-military females warriors. Believe I heard him use it when he first allegorical oracle Nov 24 #11
TSF''SGrand father was A German 3auld6phart Nov 24 #39
He's a Trump Team Sex Warrior Sane1 Nov 24 #12
Drugging women and then raping them. What a brave guy. Irish_Dem Nov 24 #15
After my father died, we found a big box of his medals we had never seen. Irish_Dem Nov 24 #13
My USAF dad serve in three wars too! Bobstandard Nov 24 #25
I am so glad my father is not alive to see this. Irish_Dem Nov 25 #72
Thank you for posting this HighFired49 Nov 24 #36
Yes thank you for adding the quiet pride and honor part. Irish_Dem Nov 25 #73
My hubby is a Vietnam combat veteran too. Katcat Nov 24 #14
These so-called "warriors" are all wannabes alarimer Nov 24 #16
Posers all Seinan Sensei Nov 24 #44
My father was a career Marine officer. He served in WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. He very rarely talked about the wars. mommymarine2003 Nov 24 #17
Such a poignant tale, and one of many. Many scrapbooks and memories. Thanks for sharing! erronis Nov 24 #20
My Air-Force-veteran dad NEVER ONCE talked about it. calimary Nov 24 #21
K&R spanone Nov 24 #18
Wonderful. More play soldiers with delusions of grandeur. paleotn Nov 24 #19
They are con all the way down and up. erronis Nov 24 #22
Not much of a warrior liberalgunwilltravel Nov 24 #23
He did same heavy action but the size and the scope of the DoD is beyond him. underpants Nov 24 #26
It's just more of the same dumbass "alpha male" Republican posturing these fucking cartoon villains have been pushing... Karasu Nov 24 #28
We had National Guard in Nam? mobeau69 Nov 24 #29
Some ended up going anyway orangecrush Nov 24 #43
Bummer for them. I would've been po. mobeau69 Nov 24 #56
Man, oh man, Love this! Thank you for your service Joinfortmill Nov 24 #30
Highly recommended. sheshe2 Nov 24 #32
Years ago my doctor moniss Nov 24 #33
I found out within the last few years that the father of my best friend when I was growing up rsdsharp Nov 24 #50
Mr. Hegseth language suggests he wants the U.S. to be at war Tweedy Nov 24 #35
No one less authentic than one who brags ChicagoRonin Nov 24 #37
Those who know orangecrush Nov 24 #42
That word? It's part of his narrative coverup of his incompetence & stupidity when it comes to the ancianita Nov 24 #38
Best post ever. orangecrush Nov 24 #40
Great post. Doodles Nov 24 #41
I do not think the Sec of Defense, the Pres and so on peacebuzzard Nov 24 #47
Warriors of god and white supremacy FirstLight Nov 24 #48
Onward Christian Soldiers - Have you seen the VPs tattoo?? Runningdawg Nov 24 #65
Drumps Cabinet Tribetime Nov 24 #49
"You said rape twice!" "I like rape." *chuckles* "You'll do." DEFINITELY tsf Cabinet material. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 25 #75
This is the hangover from Iraqi Freedom and Just Cause Aviation Pro Nov 24 #52
However 90-percent Nov 25 #81
Thank you, AverageOldGuy. Diamond_Dog Nov 24 #54
My family war stories: Mr.Bill Nov 24 #55
Lol, there are apparently enough just retired Navy Seals around haele Nov 24 #67
Glad to have someone confirm Mr.Bill Nov 24 #68
Your post is one of the best I've read, drawing the line between predatory rapists & those who serve the country... Hekate Nov 24 #57
General Fortune B. Cookie says: usonian Nov 24 #58
My Grandfather is a WW2 Texasgal Nov 24 #60
These are the stories... orwell Nov 24 #63
Per Wikipedia... surfered Nov 24 #64
Be wary of loud brash people who talk big. Aussie105 Nov 24 #66
Right on right on! AKwannabe Nov 24 #69
My dad never spoke about his war experiences. murielm99 Nov 25 #70
Say it, brother! applegrove Nov 25 #71
Need to turn this into an article on one of the big media sites oldmanlynn Nov 25 #74
Hegseth is a nutjob Beck23 Nov 25 #76
It's code for "His fellow douchbags". Omnipresent Nov 25 #77
The warrior thing is weird. mn9driver Nov 25 #79
Hegseth obviously is a superhero of sorts in his own mind. NoMoreRepugs Nov 25 #80
Father in Law was a WW2 medic Lithos Nov 25 #82
It's the surface people. Seems they never "Got" ... "Don't judge a book by it's Cov..." chouchou Nov 25 #83
My Dad was career US Army Mountain Mule Nov 25 #84
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