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Voltaire2

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72. I dunno, I cheered when they rocketed 10 Downing Street.

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Madness everywhere! I'm in an Irish pub in Atlanta and newspaper cuttings on the wall show they celebrate the IRA! [View all] Doodley Nov 24 OP

I was once at a St. Patrick's party at a bar in New York where it turned out they were raising money Scrivener7 Nov 24 #1

wow... i had no idea. BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 24 #20

In the late 90's Docreed2003 Nov 24 #63

My ex's mother, a 5th generation Irish American, wnylib Nov 25 #89

lol WhiskeyGrinder Nov 24 #2

What Pub and what Neighrhood? Raine1967 Nov 24 #3

Not joking. I thought maybe this is just America! I lived in England most my life. I know many Americans Doodley Nov 24 #6

Senator Joe Biden soandso Nov 24 #35

I was in County Down the day in 1981 when Bobby Sands died visiting relatives for the 1st and only time. PufPuf23 Nov 24 #52

What a story! I bet it there were some scary moments. Thanks for sharing. Doodley Nov 24 #59

That could be troubles.ome. Abolishinist Nov 24 #4

I guess you've never spent much time in Boston or NYC's most traditional Irish pubs. hlthe2b Nov 24 #5

As I said in another reply, they have a "Remembering the hunger strikers" poster among newspaper cuttings that Doodley Nov 24 #8

The support for the ira, a terrorist organization Meowmee Nov 24 #12

Thank you. The support seems to be here on this thread! I am "naive" because I am shocked to see sympathizers. Doodley Nov 24 #43

You will almost never get through to this type of person Meowmee Nov 24 #45

That is the difference between American media, even back then, and the British media. Even though the UK has Doodley Nov 24 #50

I don't like the BBC or the Guardian anymore Meowmee Nov 24 #75

Who is sympathizing? I think that people are just commenting on wnylib Nov 25 #90

I certainly did not intend to imply you were a sympathizer, but there are the "both sides" type posts here, Doodley Nov 26 #91

In fact, I just read a post that says the IRA were freedom fighters, not terrorists. Pretty disgusting. Doodley Nov 26 #92

The violence was generally rejected; the cause of the IRA, not so much except by Protestants and English. hlthe2b Nov 24 #14

And "Black 47" wasn't just a bar on Second Avenue. Scrivener7 Nov 24 #19

No. Indeed. hlthe2b Nov 24 #21

Stop stirring up s*hit OutNow Nov 24 #7

Please read my previous reply, and please don't accuse me of stirring any pots. I don't support the IRA. Do you? Doodley Nov 24 #10

Do you really think the IRA is widely & actively operating today 30 years after the Peace Accords were signed? hlthe2b Nov 24 #16

I'm happy to answer your questions. Doodley Nov 24 #22

One of my two masters degrees before I went into medicine was in history and I did hlthe2b Nov 24 #27

What have I written that is inaccurate according to your superior knowledge? Could you be more patronizing? Doodley Nov 24 #31

I get that you are defensive. I will leave the thread--hoping you WILL hlthe2b Nov 24 #34

You can't answer my question. You basically claimed I don't know what I'm talking about. You Doodley Nov 24 #36

You've shown no inclinication to listen. So, at a later date if you would like to have a constructive discourse, sure. hlthe2b Nov 24 #39

Listen to what? I'm waiting for you to provide one fact that you claim I got wrong. Again you insult me. Apology please. Doodley Nov 24 #41

First time in an Irish American pub then? meadowlander Nov 24 #9

No the first, but don't frequent them! Doodley Nov 24 #23

Seriously. H2O Man Nov 24 #60

LOL n/t leftstreet Nov 24 #11

Where? Lithos Nov 24 #13

O'Reilly's, Sandy Springs (not auto parts!) Doodley Nov 24 #24

Nice Lithos Nov 24 #32

I'd be interested to hear what you think. You might get a lot of insults like I have had if you take issue though! Doodley Nov 24 #69

Freedom fighters Arazi Nov 24 #15

Sorry, but Sinn Fein never got much more than 13% of the Northern Ireland vote during the troubles. The IRA was a Doodley Nov 24 #26

A genocide Doodley. 600 years of monstrous occupation Arazi Nov 24 #30

What was the "horrific oppression" or "genocide" during the troubles? Doodley Nov 24 #70

Disenfranchisement of Catholics meadowlander Nov 24 #78

Every Irish bar in NYC collected money for the IRA Prairie Gates Nov 24 #17

Up the rebels! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 24 #18

This post comes across as terribly naive Maeve Nov 24 #25

The IRA were terrorists and were supported by a small percentage of people in Northern Ireland. I am naive if I'm not Doodley Nov 24 #29

Are we not talking about old, yellowed newspaper clippings? Xavier Breath Nov 24 #37

No. They are not yellowed. Would it be okay to put Nazi symbolism up in a public place, or conferate flags, or support Doodley Nov 24 #56

Wow, overreact much? Xavier Breath Nov 24 #66

The Unionists were also terrorists and the British government was oppressive Maeve Nov 24 #49

Which bit justifies the IRA killing and maiming innocent people? Which bit of history don't I understand as well as you? Doodley Nov 24 #53

The part where Unionists and Brit gov. also killed innocents Maeve Nov 24 #55

And locked Catholics out of jobs, housing and the political process for decades. meadowlander Nov 24 #74

You are kinder than me. H2O Man Nov 24 #62

I've spent 20 years studying the issues Maeve Nov 24 #65

I have family H2O Man Nov 24 #81

I wish we could sit down and talk...your family history is fascinating Maeve Nov 25 #85

1 person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. mopinko Nov 24 #28

Don't pretend that the British government didn't bear some responsibility for the violence dflprincess Nov 24 #33

... yonder Nov 24 #38

That's my signature line. greatauntoftriplets Nov 24 #48

It's as fine a seal as the promise it bears. yonder Nov 25 #87

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Xolodno Nov 24 #40

I hope you left. Now, never go back there. Iggo Nov 24 #42

One could always tell what side the bar was by the whiskey they sold Historic NY Nov 24 #44

In the 1990's, both were bought by a FRENCH company Maeve Nov 24 #51

Nothing surprising about that Cirsium Nov 24 #46

They had a "Remembering the hunger strikers" poster, paying tribute to Bobby Sands and other hunger strikers. Doodley Nov 24 #47

You should've put that in the OP. Iggo Nov 24 #54

I will do it now. Thanks! Doodley Nov 24 #61

And the Brits were angels. And the Black and Tan were choir boys. NoRethugFriends Nov 24 #57

My bet - Someone at the pub has friends or relatives who are in the IRA. SupportSanity Nov 24 #58

Is this The Onion? H2O Man Nov 24 #64

My mother's side of the family came from Ireland soandso Nov 24 #67

Extremely common DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 24 #68

Thanks for sharing. Good story about your friend's cousin! The Brits heard that funding for the IRA came from US. Doodley Nov 24 #71

I worked for a property management company at that time soandso Nov 24 #73

Soandso, I said I would remember your name when you were so courteous on another thread. You mix Doodley Nov 24 #77

Wouldn't go that far, lol soandso Nov 24 #79

I dunno, I cheered when they rocketed 10 Downing Street. Voltaire2 Nov 24 #72

And the next year, ten percent of those who voted in Northern Ireland, voted for Sinn Fein. It was an act of terrorism. Doodley Nov 24 #76

I have a friend who went into a bar to get a pop and he evidently ordered the *right* Irish whiskey. LudwigPastorius Nov 24 #80

Many people, including some in her own government, whathehell Nov 24 #82

I'm delighted with the responses to your hostility to Irish unity OutNow Nov 25 #83

these were not unity, these were murderous terror: Celerity Nov 25 #84

My late husband was from Ireland CountAllVotes Nov 25 #86

This isn't a new thing re Irish Pubs in the U.S. especially the ones that were started up by IRA and supporters. msfiddlestix Nov 25 #88

I wonder if I ever saw you play at the pubs in S.F. CountAllVotes Nov 26 #93

Mostly at the Plough. I think I did play Ireland's 32 once, but usually was always the Plough, or at the Star and Plough msfiddlestix Nov 26 #94

Lots of great memories from your post CountAllVotes Nov 26 #95

There were great memories, did you play? msfiddlestix Nov 26 #96

Yes, I am a musician CountAllVotes Nov 26 #97