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48. True She got more votes then Obama but that's misleading

Wed Nov 27, 2024, 06:53 AM

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because the U.S. population increased by over 31 million sense 2008 and often times Presidential elections get more votes then the one before it, because of continuing population growth with the exception of landslides. She still got 7 million less votes then Biden despite the fact U.S population has grown by over 6 million sense 2020.

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Huffington Post: Kamala Harris Campaign Aides Suggest Campaign Was Just Doomed [View all] Jose Garcia Nov 26 OP

She did the best she could with the short time she was given Groundhawg Nov 26 #1

Best postmortem yet: the question is not why did she lose, but how did she come so close Prairie Gates Nov 26 #2

I thought so. Because she's a woman. I thought too many who voted for Joe wouldn't vote for a woman. Scrivener7 Nov 26 #3

Same here. LisaL Nov 26 #4

I fully supported her once the President endorsed her MustLoveBeagles Nov 26 #12

She didn't poll better than Biden in MOST polls at that time, but I did see at least one Jack Valentino Nov 26 #14

...and Thus, We Discover Another Big Reason Bypassing Harris Was a BAD Idea. The_Counsel Nov 27 #89

White Americans have been taught for 40 years that the Republican is the only choice. yardwork Nov 27 #91

She polled significantly better than Biden Polybius Nov 27 #111

I agree, I will believe that America is ready to elect a woman president when it happens not before Walleye Nov 27 #52

LOL. I was just like the trumpers in 2020 who couldn't believe all the enthusiasm they saw at his rallies CrispyQ Nov 27 #84

Well, it was always going to be a close election. LisaL Nov 26 #5

I felt the same way when she announced Marigold Nov 26 #10

Yup. America wasn't ever going to elect a black woman Arazi Nov 26 #20

I voted for Kamala Harris as well, obviously. LisaL Nov 26 #25

Their hands were tied Blue_Tires Nov 27 #37

What Were the Dems Trying to Accomplish? The_Counsel Nov 27 #99

I thought the same too DeepWinter Nov 27 #51

the mood of the country simply didn't support any kind of status quo stopdiggin Nov 26 #6

I thought Kamala and Tim were Great MacKasey Nov 26 #7

they were great... I think they just didn't have enough time to get people to know her LymphocyteLover Nov 26 #15

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On the other hand, everyone knows who Trump is. How hard is it to decide which candidate to vote for? Fish700 Nov 27 #94

Right -- but Repubs have been exposed to endless propaganda how bad Dems are LymphocyteLover Nov 28 #118

Doomed by Merrick Garland in 2021. Yavin4 Nov 26 #8

how could we argue that trump is a fascist wannabe and criminal when he's running around ecstatic Nov 26 #23

The main thing I criticize Biden for is appointing Garland AG Janbdwl72 Nov 27 #34

no other AG has dared to prosecute a president, former or otherwise bigtree Nov 27 #58

There's always a first time for everything. Yavin4 Nov 27 #63

it's not as if the case they were prosecuting was about violations of not just laws bigtree Nov 27 #69

Yep, it shows his base that the "Deep State" was persecuting him. The bigleyest innocent man. Fish700 Nov 27 #93

you mean voters needed for an already convicted felon/adjudicated rapist, convicted tax fraud bigtree Nov 27 #57

If he was guilty he would be in jail. "Fake news" cries his base! Fish700 Nov 27 #95

No. If it wasn't Trump, it would have been an even bigger loss. Self Esteem Nov 27 #77

Is he in jail? Fish700 Nov 27 #96

What's your argument? Self Esteem Nov 27 #106

Trump supporters think the convictions are fake news. Real Convicts are in jail. Fish700 Nov 29 #119

That's putting a bit much on Biden. usonian Nov 26 #9

I think he may not even get credit. Ursus Rex Nov 27 #53

America has bigotry and misogyny in its DNA LuvLoogie Nov 26 #11

I listened to the podcast where they went over this-- very informative LymphocyteLover Nov 26 #13

pisses me off that Joe Rogan wasn't more flexible to meet with her LymphocyteLover Nov 26 #16

Her people said Rogan needed to fly to her womanofthehills Nov 27 #71

Her campaign people told a different story about when he was willing to meet LymphocyteLover Nov 27 #79

I believe it was successful voter suppression, something not mentioned in any post election commentary. nt ShazamIam Nov 26 #17

So 7 million Biden voters TheProle Nov 27 #73

How many times during the 2nd half of 2024 did you read about a state that removed thousands of voters from their ShazamIam Nov 27 #75

She was awesome! Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill Nov 26 #18

She overperformed if you go by Approval Ratings cjoki4 Nov 26 #19

We don't know that Biden would've lost by a larger margin and will never no standingtall Nov 26 #22

We have a good reason to understand what would happen. Self Esteem Nov 27 #78

I want to know what was said to finally get him to drop out, and who said it Polybius Nov 28 #112

It wasn't one thing is my guess. Self Esteem Nov 28 #114

It's hard to say, because it was so abrupt Polybius Nov 28 #116

Our political system has been corrupted. *rump embraced/embraces that dynamic even comparing himself to Al Capone Uncle Joe Nov 26 #21

She ran of very good campaign but standingtall Nov 26 #24

Fuck that shit... Her less-than-perfect campaign Blue_Tires Nov 27 #38

No Dem voters didn't stab her in the back standingtall Nov 27 #43

Them, too... Blue_Tires Nov 27 #67

Sounds like somebody paid way too much attention to the NY Times. Paladin Nov 27 #47

I disagree Retrograde Nov 26 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Nov 27 #59

Comments in the Huffington post article are rough n/t MichMan Nov 26 #27

I just didn't see the value in parading out a bunch of multimillionaire doc03 Nov 26 #28

She steamrolled Drumpf in the debate True Dough Nov 26 #29

How does a highly educated successful Black woman appeal to NoMoreRepugs Nov 26 #30

From now on, Dems need to dumb everything down Blue_Tires Nov 27 #41

Joe Rogan is a right wing shill standingtall Nov 27 #44

The phrase implies a population's erosion or ignorance of civic duty as a priority. taxi Nov 27 #45

That's the feeling I have too. gemini_liberal Nov 27 #31

Also, dirty tricks and vote suppression NameAlreadyTaken Nov 27 #32

"the mood of the country simply didn't support any kind of status quo" J_William_Ryan Nov 27 #33

That makes absolutely zero sense Blue_Tires Nov 27 #36

Right Cosmocat Nov 27 #39

Like I said, all the support and enthusiasm Blue_Tires Nov 27 #35

I pushed back on DT fading at the time Cosmocat Nov 27 #40

If Dems showed up in numbers Blue_Tires Nov 27 #42

Harris actually got more total votes than Obama. LisaL Nov 27 #46

True She got more votes then Obama but that's misleading standingtall Nov 27 #48

In 2020 nitpicked Nov 27 #54

I said this the last few months: turnout was not going to equal 2020. Self Esteem Nov 27 #82

In 2024 people knew what a disaster a Trump presidency was - unlike 2020 Fish700 Nov 27 #100

That's a bit misleading as well FBaggins Nov 27 #85

Still lower than 2020 Blue_Tires Nov 27 #66

The US has added over 32 million people since 2012. Of course Harris was going to have more total votes than Obama. Self Esteem Nov 27 #81

Yep Cosmocat Nov 27 #50

Trump wasn't fading. He had some of his biggest crowds in the final 90 days of the campaign. Self Esteem Nov 27 #80

So all those venues I saw with Blue_Tires Nov 27 #88

You saw what you wanted to see. Self Esteem Nov 27 #104

No brah, I saw what actually happened... Blue_Tires Nov 27 #109

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She was beyond better than ANYONE who ever ran for office in this country IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. John Shaft Nov 27 #49

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The media's complicity in getting Trump re-elected can't be underestimated dlk Nov 27 #56

I blame Biden's advisors dalton99a Nov 27 #60

Still tone deaf on pocketbook, or at least silent, on pocketbook economics Ms. Toad Nov 27 #61

She addressed pocket book issues a lot in her speeches. Elessar Zappa Nov 27 #62

She started to toward the end, but by the time she recognized that simply telling people not to believe Ms. Toad Nov 27 #72

We had a billion dollars to manipulate social media In our favor JCMach1 Nov 27 #64

If she put forth at least one big vision economic idea, she might have won andym Nov 27 #65

Harris and Walz ran a great campaign. gulliver Nov 27 #68

She did what she could in a short amount of time Dem4life1234 Nov 27 #70

Whoever worked on this campaign should never be allowed near another one. Passages Nov 27 #74

There's interesting. yardwork Nov 27 #90

Quite possibly, but he also had a crypto creep who spent $40 million against him. Passages Nov 27 #92

Maybe next time he will run a different campaign. Passages Nov 27 #98

I don't think people understand how bleak the odds were looking prior to Harris coming into the race. Self Esteem Nov 27 #76

Bullshit Blue Owl Nov 27 #83

K & R Emile Nov 27 #97

Trump panders to his base. Ours is ignored Bobstandard Nov 27 #87

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Yep but look at the guy she was running against. Fish700 Nov 27 #102

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What's the sky like on your planet? Fish700 Nov 27 #105

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oh, well then WhiskeyGrinder Nov 27 #108

Great. In what was called one of the most important elections in our nation's history, we ran a doomed campaign. jalan48 Nov 27 #110

As much as I love Biden, the fact is that he had a 41% approval rating Polybius Nov 28 #115

See that's where they went wrong. ucrdem Nov 28 #117