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soandso

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21. They're a spin off of al Qaeda
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 10:18 PM
Nov 2024

HTS conducts small battles against the Syrian regime, its militants, and other jihadi groups because they all go against its ideology. They mostly operate in Syria, particularly Idlib but also Aleppo, Hama, and Dera’a. The power retrieved by the group, on Turkey’s behalf, has provoked an increase of violent strategies aside from military tactics. In extreme cases, they undergo hard punishment for fornication (i.e. stoning people to death). They also gain money, either by holding people for ransom or attaining the attention of government personnel for political action. Some of their hostages include UN peacekeepers, Western reporters, and Lebanese soldiers.

https://thekootneeti.in/2020/10/14/the-evolutionary-strategies-of-hayat-tahrir-al-sham-in-syria/

In July 2016, al-Nusra formally re-designated itself from Jabhat al-Nusra to Jabhat Fatah al-Sham ("Front for the Conquest of the Levant&quot and officially announced that it was breaking ties with Al-Qaeda.[42][43]

The announcement caused defections of senior Al-Nusra commanders and criticism from al-Qaeda ranks, provoking a harsh rebuke from Ayman al-Zawahiri, who denounced it as an "act of disobedience".[44] On 28 January 2017, following violent clashes with Ahrar al-Sham and other rebel groups, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham (JFS) merged with four other groups to form Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), a new Sunni Islamist militant group.[45] Tahrir al-Sham denies any links to the al-Qaeda network and said in a statement that the group is "an independent entity and not an extension of previous organizations or factions".[46] Mutual hostilities eventually deteriorated into one of violent confrontations, with Al-Nusra commander Sami al-Oraydi accusing HTS of adopting nationalist doctrines. Sami al-Oraydi, alongside other Al-Qaeda loyalists like Abu Humam al-Shami, Abu Julaybib and others, mobilised Al-Qaeda personnel in northwestern Syria to establish an anti-HTS front in north-western Syria, eventually forming Hurras al-Din on 27 February 2018.[47][48][44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

See, these Salafist groups divide like cells and re-form into other groups, who have differences with each and fight but are all jihadists. Some want a stateless caliphate and some just want to control Syria (and other places where they've operated) but they are all dangerous, criminal and extremely violent.

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Maybe Tulsi will let him stay at her place. Lunabell Nov 2024 #1
Holy fucking hell!!! 😮 Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #2
Oh, fuck. Lunabell Nov 2024 #3
No, these are the Turkish backed Sunni HTS - haele Nov 2024 #10
Oh. Lunabell Nov 2024 #12
No, ISIS is Sunni . . hatrack Dec 2024 #59
These details are good to know! Thank you for adding them here! liberalla Nov 2024 #13
HTS is US designated terrorist organization n/t kirby Nov 2024 #16
The Southern Poverty Law Center is about to be designated as a terrorist organization Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #40
They're a spin off of al Qaeda soandso Nov 2024 #21
Yup. Their leader is actually an ISIS member Arazi Nov 2024 #24
I didn't know that soandso Nov 2024 #36
Great clipping Lulu KC Dec 2024 #55
Everything over there soandso Dec 2024 #56
There are credible reports Mosby Dec 2024 #69
Not surprised at all Arazi Dec 2024 #70
They are 100% anti-Iran and it is a virtual certainty that Mossad co-funded this operation Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #39
I think they are the jihadists that were linked to ISIS. karynnj Dec 2024 #52
They probably... 2naSalit Nov 2024 #11
Wait...what? Iggo Nov 2024 #14
LOL No Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #41
May Trump join them soon Sanity Claws Nov 2024 #4
My first Rebl2 Nov 2024 #19
Who is going to fill that vacuum? n/t Blaukraut Nov 2024 #5
ISIS Lunabell Nov 2024 #6
Hayat Tahrir al-Sham hopes to soandso Nov 2024 #23
Would have liked to see Assad get the Ceaucescu treatment. nt The Unmitigated Gall Nov 2024 #7
He knew either he was going to get the Mussolini or the Gadhafi... Dennis Donovan Nov 2024 #9
So ... now he gets the Amin, or pretty close to it. eppur_se_muova Nov 2024 #20
The Baby Doc JoseBalow Nov 2024 #26
I'd have preferred he'd shared the fate of Edward II. Marcuse Nov 2024 #29
Seems like things still be bad no matter what happens JI7 Nov 2024 #8
What? LeftInTX Nov 2024 #15
My *yippee* wiĺ only be bigger when it's Drumpf falling - UTUSN Nov 2024 #17
Same! Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #66
Wow electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #18
Isn't Assad in Damascus? Diraven Nov 2024 #22
Agreed. This is dubious Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #42
If he did go to Moscow duncang Nov 2024 #46
That would be my bet. eom BComplex Dec 2024 #50
Biden winning all the way to Jan 20th Johonny Nov 2024 #25
This is GREAT news if it true! JoseBalow Nov 2024 #27
Not if ISIS replaces him n/t Polybius Nov 2024 #32
ISIS is a less formidable enemy than Assad JoseBalow Nov 2024 #33
I think ISIS is worse Polybius Nov 2024 #34
The rebels who are leading right now in the fight are Sunni Lulu KC Nov 2024 #37
ISIS was Sunni, including many from Iraq who were karynnj Dec 2024 #53
Yikes! Lulu KC Dec 2024 #54
You got that right soandso Nov 2024 #38
Didn't have "Celebrate the diversity of the Assad regime" on my Saturday bingo card Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #44
Well, as bad as the Assad regime is soandso Nov 2024 #45
We like secular states because they tend to be less murderous Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #47
Yeah, well soandso Nov 2024 #48
Assad is not an Islamist LeftInTX Dec 2024 #57
He murders people in large num,bers Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #58
You support ISIS? LeftInTX Dec 2024 #60
Uh, no, I don't. Do you support Assad? Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #61
No. But you are supporting ISIS because that LeftInTX Dec 2024 #62
I'm not supporting ISIS, and Assad is a genocidal murderer who you are supporting Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #63
No, but that is who is trying to oust Assad LeftInTX Dec 2024 #64
Assad is a genocidal murderer Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #65
Sorry you didn't get the memo about ISIS LeftInTX Dec 2024 #67
You don't have the slightest idea of what's going on Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #68
Are there any news outlets that confirm this? RainCaster Nov 2024 #28
Like, don't news outlets just get their news from social media? usonian Nov 2024 #30
It's all over except for Assad in Moscow Lulu KC Nov 2024 #35
Oh shit! Polybius Nov 2024 #31
Me watching the panicky Putinites come out in droves Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #43
Maybe Tulsi can visit him in Moscow. Qutzupalotl Nov 2024 #49
Assad was apparently already in Moscow when the attack started. Celerity Dec 2024 #51
May they rule better, be kinder, more humane, more open to change. I doubt it, but well, hope springs something. mucholderthandirt Dec 2024 #71
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