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soandso

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21. They're a spin off of al Qaeda
Fri Nov 29, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 29

HTS conducts small battles against the Syrian regime, its militants, and other jihadi groups because they all go against its ideology. They mostly operate in Syria, particularly Idlib but also Aleppo, Hama, and Dera’a. The power retrieved by the group, on Turkey’s behalf, has provoked an increase of violent strategies aside from military tactics. In extreme cases, they undergo hard punishment for fornication (i.e. stoning people to death). They also gain money, either by holding people for ransom or attaining the attention of government personnel for political action. Some of their hostages include UN peacekeepers, Western reporters, and Lebanese soldiers.

https://thekootneeti.in/2020/10/14/the-evolutionary-strategies-of-hayat-tahrir-al-sham-in-syria/

In July 2016, al-Nusra formally re-designated itself from Jabhat al-Nusra to Jabhat Fatah al-Sham ("Front for the Conquest of the Levant&quot and officially announced that it was breaking ties with Al-Qaeda.[42][43]

The announcement caused defections of senior Al-Nusra commanders and criticism from al-Qaeda ranks, provoking a harsh rebuke from Ayman al-Zawahiri, who denounced it as an "act of disobedience".[44] On 28 January 2017, following violent clashes with Ahrar al-Sham and other rebel groups, Jabhat Fatah al-Sham (JFS) merged with four other groups to form Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), a new Sunni Islamist militant group.[45] Tahrir al-Sham denies any links to the al-Qaeda network and said in a statement that the group is "an independent entity and not an extension of previous organizations or factions".[46] Mutual hostilities eventually deteriorated into one of violent confrontations, with Al-Nusra commander Sami al-Oraydi accusing HTS of adopting nationalist doctrines. Sami al-Oraydi, alongside other Al-Qaeda loyalists like Abu Humam al-Shami, Abu Julaybib and others, mobilised Al-Qaeda personnel in northwestern Syria to establish an anti-HTS front in north-western Syria, eventually forming Hurras al-Din on 27 February 2018.[47][48][44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

See, these Salafist groups divide like cells and re-form into other groups, who have differences with each and fight but are all jihadists. Some want a stateless caliphate and some just want to control Syria (and other places where they've operated) but they are all dangerous, criminal and extremely violent.

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Maybe Tulsi will let him stay at her place. Lunabell Nov 29 #1
Holy fucking hell!!! 😮 Blue_Tires Nov 29 #2
Oh, fuck. Lunabell Nov 29 #3
No, these are the Turkish backed Sunni HTS - haele Nov 29 #10
Oh. Lunabell Nov 29 #12
No, ISIS is Sunni . . hatrack Dec 1 #59
These details are good to know! Thank you for adding them here! liberalla Nov 29 #13
HTS is US designated terrorist organization n/t kirby Nov 29 #16
The Southern Poverty Law Center is about to be designated as a terrorist organization Prairie Gates Nov 29 #40
They're a spin off of al Qaeda soandso Nov 29 #21
Yup. Their leader is actually an ISIS member Arazi Nov 29 #24
I didn't know that soandso Nov 29 #36
Great clipping Lulu KC Dec 1 #55
Everything over there soandso Dec 1 #56
There are credible reports Mosby Dec 1 #69
Not surprised at all Arazi Dec 1 #70
They are 100% anti-Iran and it is a virtual certainty that Mossad co-funded this operation Prairie Gates Nov 29 #39
I think they are the jihadists that were linked to ISIS. karynnj Nov 30 #52
They probably... 2naSalit Nov 29 #11
Wait...what? Iggo Nov 29 #14
LOL No Prairie Gates Nov 29 #41
May Trump join them soon Sanity Claws Nov 29 #4
My first Rebl2 Nov 29 #19
Who is going to fill that vacuum? n/t Blaukraut Nov 29 #5
ISIS Lunabell Nov 29 #6
Hayat Tahrir al-Sham hopes to soandso Nov 29 #23
Would have liked to see Assad get the Ceaucescu treatment. nt The Unmitigated Gall Nov 29 #7
He knew either he was going to get the Mussolini or the Gadhafi... Dennis Donovan Nov 29 #9
So ... now he gets the Amin, or pretty close to it. eppur_se_muova Nov 29 #20
The Baby Doc JoseBalow Nov 29 #26
I'd have preferred he'd shared the fate of Edward II. Marcuse Nov 29 #29
Seems like things still be bad no matter what happens JI7 Nov 29 #8
What? LeftInTX Nov 29 #15
My *yippee* wiĺ only be bigger when it's Drumpf falling - UTUSN Nov 29 #17
Same! Dem4life1234 Dec 1 #66
Wow electric_blue68 Nov 29 #18
Isn't Assad in Damascus? Diraven Nov 29 #22
Agreed. This is dubious Prairie Gates Nov 29 #42
If he did go to Moscow duncang Nov 29 #46
That would be my bet. eom BComplex Nov 30 #50
Biden winning all the way to Jan 20th Johonny Nov 29 #25
This is GREAT news if it true! JoseBalow Nov 29 #27
Not if ISIS replaces him n/t Polybius Nov 29 #32
ISIS is a less formidable enemy than Assad JoseBalow Nov 29 #33
I think ISIS is worse Polybius Nov 29 #34
The rebels who are leading right now in the fight are Sunni Lulu KC Nov 29 #37
ISIS was Sunni, including many from Iraq who were karynnj Nov 30 #53
Yikes! Lulu KC Nov 30 #54
You got that right soandso Nov 29 #38
Didn't have "Celebrate the diversity of the Assad regime" on my Saturday bingo card Prairie Gates Nov 29 #44
Well, as bad as the Assad regime is soandso Nov 29 #45
We like secular states because they tend to be less murderous Prairie Gates Nov 30 #47
Yeah, well soandso Nov 30 #48
Assad is not an Islamist LeftInTX Dec 1 #57
He murders people in large num,bers Prairie Gates Dec 1 #58
You support ISIS? LeftInTX Dec 1 #60
Uh, no, I don't. Do you support Assad? Prairie Gates Dec 1 #61
No. But you are supporting ISIS because that LeftInTX Dec 1 #62
I'm not supporting ISIS, and Assad is a genocidal murderer who you are supporting Prairie Gates Dec 1 #63
No, but that is who is trying to oust Assad LeftInTX Dec 1 #64
Assad is a genocidal murderer Prairie Gates Dec 1 #65
Sorry you didn't get the memo about ISIS LeftInTX Dec 1 #67
You don't have the slightest idea of what's going on Prairie Gates Dec 1 #68
Are there any news outlets that confirm this? RainCaster Nov 29 #28
Like, don't news outlets just get their news from social media? usonian Nov 29 #30
It's all over except for Assad in Moscow Lulu KC Nov 29 #35
Oh shit! Polybius Nov 29 #31
Me watching the panicky Putinites come out in droves Prairie Gates Nov 29 #43
Maybe Tulsi can visit him in Moscow. Qutzupalotl Nov 30 #49
Assad was apparently already in Moscow when the attack started. Celerity Nov 30 #51
May they rule better, be kinder, more humane, more open to change. I doubt it, but well, hope springs something. mucholderthandirt Dec 2 #71
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